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Re: Albanians abroad

by Dallku » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:33 am

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am

And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.


The best basketball player in the world today is a Serb (and you realize how elite his competition is)

The best tennis player arguably of all time is a Serb.

What I'm saying is that they are a bad comparison for Albanians. So when redijupison brings up Montenegro to prove that they overachieve in comparison to Albania because of population it's a pointless point because they are Serbs and will produce world class athletes regardless. Same with Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia... They are at a different level and it's ok to admit it.

The point is that Albania and Kosovo NEED all the help they can get and that includes the diaspora no matter the generation. Need all the numbers and resources possible to be semi-competitive on a European scale, and even then still will never be world class.

Re: Albanians abroad

by Redijupison » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:21 am

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am
Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm They are gifted in sports by nature.
And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.

Albania's sports development is just non-existent. Lots of insiders have spoken about this. Bushi was complaining that he had to teach people the basics of football. Fix that disastrous sports development and infrastructure and then we can talk about DNA.
Tbh, Bushi is part of the problem, Duka rules like an authoritarian with FSHF and only a yes man could work for him.

Re: Albanians abroad

by Aurora Bulkualis » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm They are gifted in sports by nature.
And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.

Albania's sports development is just non-existent. Lots of insiders have spoken about this. Bushi was complaining that he had to teach people the basics of football. Fix that disastrous sports development and infrastructure and then we can talk about DNA.

Re: Albanians abroad

by Redijupison » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:06 am

^^ It's all about creating the right circumstances for the youth to develope in. You do that and in 5-10 years you'll see very talented Albanian players popping up. There are no excuses, 10-15 years ago one could say the problem could've been financial, but FSHF has a lot of money now and the Superliga clubs too. The problem is that they have chosen the easy path, Albania's youth teams are filled with diaspora kids and the clubs are filled with foreigners :hi-bulku:

Re: Albanians abroad

by Redijupison » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:46 pm

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:31 pm
Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:03 pm

Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.

It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.



It has everything to do with it because tradition/culture/DNA travels along time. It doesn't go away.

It explains why Kosovars were and still are horrific at sports all the other Yugoslavs thrived at: basketball, volleyball, handball, waterpolo, tennis, etc.. Kosovo has produced 0 top athletes at any of those sports even though they lived in a super pro-sport regime. That's shocking.

And don't give me that "we were held back" myth. Fadil Vokrri proved it was possible to make it. It was a socialist regime where everyone was equal and sports were a top priority unlike in Albania.

Btw what sports is Kosovo good at right now since you want to talk about present... female judo??? LMFAO

Dude, you must be very ignorant on the Kosovo matter! Albanians had barely any rights until the 1974 federal constitutional changes which were taken away in 1989. Fadil Vokrri and the Prekazi brothers are rare case.

Kosovo with its diaspora is proving that tradition/ culture/ DNA is actually bullshit and a lame excuse for football. You also have micro countries like Iceland that seem to have found the recipe on how to develope continually talented players. You're making it sound like Albanians are mentally and physically inferior to other Europians :lol:.

Judo is very popular all over the world, and being world class at it its absolutely impressive. Wtf is waterpolo, lmao?!

Re: Albanians abroad

by Dallku » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:31 pm

Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:03 pm

Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.

It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.



It has everything to do with it because tradition/culture/DNA travels along time. It doesn't go away.

It explains why Kosovars were and still are horrific at sports all the other Yugoslavs thrived at: basketball, volleyball, handball, waterpolo, tennis, etc.. Kosovo has produced 0 top athletes at any of those sports even though they lived in a super pro-sport regime. That's shocking.

And don't give me that "we were held back" myth. Fadil Vokrri proved it was possible to make it. It was a socialist regime where everyone was equal and sports were a top priority unlike in Albania.

Btw what sports is Kosovo good at right now since you want to talk about present... female judo??? LMFAO

Re: Albanians abroad

by Redijupison » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:03 pm

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm
Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:19 pm

Every Balkan country has big diasporas, this is a very lazy excuse as to why for example a micro country like Montenegro is able to develope 2-3 top 5 league players every 5-10 years and Albania isn't.

Here you are crying that some kosovar scrubs are stealing playing time from the albanian ones. Lmao, that pathetic :zgerdhimje:.


Monenegrins are south Slavs. They are very unique in general. They are gifted in sports by nature.

In Yugoslavia guess who was the black hole in sports?? Kosovo. While the slavs were producing world class after world player in multiple sports, Kosovo only had 1 "Fadil Vokrri" to show for. That's embarassing and it shows the difference.

Albanians simply need the numbers. They are not like the south slavs physically, culturally or mentally.
Ignoring the circumstances surrounding Kosovo during Yugoslavia just to suit your narrative? :zgerdhimje:.

Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.

It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.

Re: Albanians abroad

by Dallku » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm

Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:19 pm

Every Balkan country has big diasporas, this is a very lazy excuse as to why for example a micro country like Montenegro is able to develope 2-3 top 5 league players every 5-10 years and Albania isn't.

Here you are crying that some kosovar scrubs are stealing playing time from the albanian ones. Lmao, that pathetic :zgerdhimje:.


Monenegrins are south Slavs. They are very unique in general. They are gifted in sports by nature.

In Yugoslavia guess who was the black hole in sports?? Kosovo. While the slavs were producing world class after world player in multiple sports, Kosovo only had 1 "Fadil Vokrri" to show for. That's embarassing and it shows the difference.

Albanians simply need the numbers. They are not like the south slavs physically, culturally or mentally.

Re: Albanians abroad

by Redijupison » Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:19 pm

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:56 pm
artan wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:39 pm
The Albanian national team is still heavily reliant on these players and will always be because Albania is pathetic when it comes to sport. The first olympic medal winner was from Dagestan ffs. And don't you worry because in 10 years these clowns will fill the Albanian national team with Ghanians and you will love it.


Albania is heavily reliant on diaspora because Albanians are a society of immigrants. The NT reflects that. There are more Albanians living abroad than domestically and people living in Albania are still looking to move. As long as that continues the NT will reflect it.

It's a numbers game. You only have so many resources. It's not like Turkey where their diaspora is a bonus because domestically they have 85 million people....
Every Balkan country has big diasporas, this is a very lazy excuse as to why for example a micro country like Montenegro is able to develope 2-3 top 5 league players every 5-10 years and Albania isn't.

Here you are crying that some kosovar scrubs are stealing playing time from the albanian ones. Lmao, that pathetic :zgerdhimje:.

Re: Albanians abroad

by Dallku » Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:02 pm

artan wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:41 pm

The Bogdani/Skela/Lala generation aka the golden generation of Albanian football where they'd finish dead last in each qualifying group.

f*** those were the days! :D :D


They just didn't have professional defenders/goalkeepers and were leaking goals left and right. Different times back then.

But Bogdani, Skela, Lala would be guaranteed starters in today's team. They are actually what the team is lacking.

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