by ZenMaster » Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:53 am
Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:46 pm
Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:31 pm
Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:03 pm
Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.
It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.
It has everything to do with it because tradition/culture/DNA travels along time. It doesn't go away.
It explains why Kosovars were and still are horrific at sports all the other Yugoslavs thrived at: basketball, volleyball, handball, waterpolo, tennis, etc.. Kosovo has produced 0 top athletes at any of those sports even though they lived in a super pro-sport regime. That's shocking.
And don't give me that "we were held back" myth. Fadil Vokrri proved it was possible to make it. It was a socialist regime where everyone was equal and sports were a top priority unlike in Albania.
Btw what sports is Kosovo good at right now since you want to talk about present... female judo??? LMFAO
Dude, you must be very ignorant on the Kosovo matter! Albanians had barely any rights until the 1974 federal constitutional changes which were taken away in 1989. Fadil Vokrri and the Prekazi brothers are rare case.
Kosovo with its diaspora is proving that tradition/ culture/ DNA is actually bullshit and a lame excuse for football. You also have micro countries like Iceland that seem to have found the recipe on how to develope continually talented players. You're making it sound like Albanians are mentally and physically inferior to other Europians
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Judo is very popular all over the world, and being world class at it its absolutely impressive. Wtf is waterpolo, lmao?!
400 mije shqiptar i kan debu ne Turqi gjate qeverisjes se Rankoviqit, 80% e te burgosunve politik ne Jugosllavi jon kan shqiptar e veq 7% jon kan shqiptar ne Jugosllavi. Shkije, kroat, boshnjakt, malazezt, maqedon jon martu mes veti mas luftes dyte boterore, shqiptart kryesisht jane martu veq mes veti edhe pak a shume ne krejt ish republikat jugosllave shqiptarin e kan pa si qytetar te dores te dyte. Tradite per lojnat me dore ska pas po sallat sporteve ne Prishtine, Prizren, Gjakove, Mitrovice, Peje, Gjilan jane ndertu ne vitin 1976 e prape secili qytet mesatar apo te vogel ne Jugosllavi ka pas infrastrukture shumehere ma te mire se per qytete te medhaja mos te flasim. Per ni malazez, boshnjak, maqedon, slloven, kroat osht kan shumehere ma e thjesht, perveq qe kan pas klube ne vendet perkatese me infrastrukture te mire, ekspertize kur kan shku ne vende tjera nuk ekzistu paragjykimi e stigma ndaj tyne dmth i kan pas dyert e hapuna ndersa per shqiptart perveq te Partizani i Beogradit e te Hajduku i Splitit osht kan gati e pamundun. Perkunder krejt barrierave Trepca e Prishtina kan arrit me lujt ne Ligen e Pare te Jugosllavise ne futboll, Borci i Ferizajit ne Hendboll, Universiteti i Prishtines ne basketboll te femnave, Prishtina ka dal pese here kampion i Jugosllavise ne boks ndersa sporte individuale si karate e mundje ka pas kampiona nivel te Jugosllavise si te moshat edhe te seniorat. Per kohen e shkurt sa shqiptart e kan pas ni "shot" edhe pse jo kurre "fair shot" kan pas suksese te konsiderueshme. Prej 1990 ska pas ma sport, liga paralele te futbollit te Kosoves osht zhvillu neper livadhe e ara te Kosoves, sportet tjera skan pas qasje neper salla sportive bile as ne salla te shkollave fillore per edukate fizike. Me krahasu Kosoven me Malin e Zi qe osht nda me referendum ne 2006 apo Sllovenine qe osht nda pa asni therr ne kam edhe perveq qe trashegu super infrastrukture ka vazhdu me i njek standartet e Austrise e Gjermanise osht hajgare sidomos qe edhe pas shpalljes pavaresise Kosova ka pas shume problem me u bo pjese e federatave sportive me drejta te plota. Para pak diteve ke finalja e Eurobasketit, edhe dy lojtar te Turqise qe lujshin finale Kenan Sipahi edhe Ercan Osmani (prej Bajram Curri) e kan nis basketbollin ne Kosove perkatesisht ne Prishtine e ne Prizren para se me u transferu ne Turqi.
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Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.
It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.
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It has everything to do with it because tradition/culture/DNA travels along time. It doesn't go away.
It explains why Kosovars were and still are horrific at sports all the other Yugoslavs thrived at: basketball, volleyball, handball, waterpolo, tennis, etc.. Kosovo has produced 0 top athletes at any of those sports even though they lived in a super pro-sport regime. That's shocking.
And don't give me that "we were held back" myth. Fadil Vokrri proved it was possible to make it. It was a socialist regime where everyone was equal and sports were a top priority unlike in Albania.
Btw what sports is Kosovo good at right now since you want to talk about present... female judo??? LMFAO
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Dude, you must be very ignorant on the Kosovo matter! Albanians had barely any rights until the 1974 federal constitutional changes which were taken away in 1989. Fadil Vokrri and the Prekazi brothers are rare case.
Kosovo with its diaspora is proving that tradition/ culture/ DNA is actually bullshit and a lame excuse for football. You also have micro countries like Iceland that seem to have found the recipe on how to develope continually talented players. You're making it sound like Albanians are mentally and physically inferior to other Europians :lol:.
Judo is very popular all over the world, and being world class at it its absolutely impressive. Wtf is waterpolo, lmao?!
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400 mije shqiptar i kan debu ne Turqi gjate qeverisjes se Rankoviqit, 80% e te burgosunve politik ne Jugosllavi jon kan shqiptar e veq 7% jon kan shqiptar ne Jugosllavi. Shkije, kroat, boshnjakt, malazezt, maqedon jon martu mes veti mas luftes dyte boterore, shqiptart kryesisht jane martu veq mes veti edhe pak a shume ne krejt ish republikat jugosllave shqiptarin e kan pa si qytetar te dores te dyte. Tradite per lojnat me dore ska pas po sallat sporteve ne Prishtine, Prizren, Gjakove, Mitrovice, Peje, Gjilan jane ndertu ne vitin 1976 e prape secili qytet mesatar apo te vogel ne Jugosllavi ka pas infrastrukture shumehere ma te mire se per qytete te medhaja mos te flasim. Per ni malazez, boshnjak, maqedon, slloven, kroat osht kan shumehere ma e thjesht, perveq qe kan pas klube ne vendet perkatese me infrastrukture te mire, ekspertize kur kan shku ne vende tjera nuk ekzistu paragjykimi e stigma ndaj tyne dmth i kan pas dyert e hapuna ndersa per shqiptart perveq te Partizani i Beogradit e te Hajduku i Splitit osht kan gati e pamundun. Perkunder krejt barrierave Trepca e Prishtina kan arrit me lujt ne Ligen e Pare te Jugosllavise ne futboll, Borci i Ferizajit ne Hendboll, Universiteti i Prishtines ne basketboll te femnave, Prishtina ka dal pese here kampion i Jugosllavise ne boks ndersa sporte individuale si karate e mundje ka pas kampiona nivel te Jugosllavise si te moshat edhe te seniorat. Per kohen e shkurt sa shqiptart e kan pas ni "shot" edhe pse jo kurre "fair shot" kan pas suksese te konsiderueshme. Prej 1990 ska pas ma sport, liga paralele te futbollit te Kosoves osht zhvillu neper livadhe e ara te Kosoves, sportet tjera skan pas qasje neper salla sportive bile as ne salla te shkollave fillore per edukate fizike. Me krahasu Kosoven me Malin e Zi qe osht nda me referendum ne 2006 apo Sllovenine qe osht nda pa asni therr ne kam edhe perveq qe trashegu super infrastrukture ka vazhdu me i njek standartet e Austrise e Gjermanise osht hajgare sidomos qe edhe pas shpalljes pavaresise Kosova ka pas shume problem me u bo pjese e federatave sportive me drejta te plota. Para pak diteve ke finalja e Eurobasketit, edhe dy lojtar te Turqise qe lujshin finale Kenan Sipahi edhe Ercan Osmani (prej Bajram Curri) e kan nis basketbollin ne Kosove perkatesisht ne Prishtine e ne Prizren para se me u transferu ne Turqi.