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Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by Plako » Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:59 pm

Pjetër wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:33 pm Really should have took Argentina to raise the cup instead of Argentina moneyline though...
I took Argentina back in June for $100 to lift the cup. Paid $900

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by CanaYouDoIt » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:14 am

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:09 am Football doesn't have a clear goat unlike basketball. Pele, Maradona, Messi all are viable candidates. I'd add even Zidane and the 2 Ronaldos (Brazil /Portugese) in there. Except CR7, all of them won World Cups and had good club careers. CR7 has the best club career ever though and won a EUROs.
At this point you can’t argue anything but Messi.

Most balondors, golden boots, most assists of all time , only guy to win 2 World Cup POTTs, more goals than the guys named, more everything.

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by CanaYouDoIt » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:11 am

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:03 am
artan wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:55 am It’s silly to think Messi isn’t the GOAT or an all time great if they didn’t win. Is he supposed to stop his defender from doing a handball or giving up multiple penalties? Is he responsible for Martinez missing chances on goal?
You're in the finals twice, you gotta win at least once. No excuses. That's why MJ is the GOAT.
Why the f*** are you bringing up MJ ? And why are you comparing the WC which comes every 4 years to the NBA Finals ?

If that’s your criteria for being the goat then Bill Russell wipes the floor with MJ 👍🏼

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by artan » Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:04 am

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:03 am
artan wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:55 am It’s silly to think Messi isn’t the GOAT or an all time great if they didn’t win. Is he supposed to stop his defender from doing a handball or giving up multiple penalties? Is he responsible for Martinez missing chances on goal?
You're in the finals twice, you gotta win at least once. No excuses. That's why MJ is the GOAT.
Messi has won numerous Champion Leagues, La Liga, cups, etc.

International is different as it’s infrequent and he’s unable to chose his teams. Also, if your gonna compare to MJ its a stupid argument. No one would say MJ isn’t the GOAT if the dream team hypothetically loss.

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by Aurora Bulkualis » Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:03 am

artan wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:55 am It’s silly to think Messi isn’t the GOAT or an all time great if they didn’t win. Is he supposed to stop his defender from doing a handball or giving up multiple penalties? Is he responsible for Martinez missing chances on goal?
You're in the finals twice, you gotta win at least once. No excuses. That's why MJ is the GOAT.

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by artan » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:55 am

It’s silly to think Messi isn’t the GOAT or an all time great if they didn’t win. Is he supposed to stop his defender from doing a handball or giving up multiple penalties? Is he responsible for Martinez missing chances on goal?

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by Pjetër » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:35 am

I also must apologize to Dallku. After seeing Emi Martinez's celebration I have to say Albanians and Argentines are a lot more similar than I thought. I would have done the same thing.

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by Aurora Bulkualis » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:09 am

Football doesn't have a clear goat unlike basketball. Pele, Maradona, Messi all are viable candidates. I'd add even Zidane and the 2 Ronaldos (Brazil /Portugese) in there. Except CR7, all of them won World Cups and had good club careers. CR7 has the best club career ever though and won a EUROs.

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by Dallku » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:45 pm

Funny thing is that Messi is on pace to win another ballon d'or too. Especially if PSG win the CL which they can do. There is no argument anymore.

Re: World Cup Qatar 2022 finals

by CanaYouDoIt » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:17 pm

Redijupison wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:04 am
Plako wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:21 pm
CanaYouDoIt wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:26 pmMessi surpassed Maradona at 23 years old.
Is that when you started watching football dude? lol
Maradona was something else, winning trophies with Napoli a relegation level club prior to them signing Maradona back when Serie A was the by far the best league, I doubt will ever be repeated. To say Messi has surpassed him just because the later was blessed to come up at Barca at a time when they had generational talent is an insult to football history. The core of that Barca team without Messi won back-to-back Euros and a world cup with Spain!

People seem to forget that Messi retired once from international football because of all the criticism he was getting for not performing at the same level for the NT as he did for Barca.
Messi literally wipes the floor with him in any career achievement or measurement. Apart from goals while on cocaine. People denying this obvious fact are hilarious.

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