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Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:30 pm

Plako wrote:
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Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:13 am
He is more like Ukshin Hoti . Hasan was more right wing politician just like Luigj Gurakuqi and Fan Noli. Vetvendosje is the typical Syriza, 5 Stelle or other leftist populist movements.
No sure where you got this but the Fan Noli was a bolshevik and progressive and Luigj Gurakuqi served as his education minister.

https://www.questia.com/library/journal ... viet-union

Bajram Curri and Hasan Prishtina joined forces with Noli as they hoped for his support towards Kosova, which at the time was absorbed by Serbia and for which King Zog had already acquiesced.
Noli Was popular liberal , in what today we would call “ center right” of the political scene when he , Avni Rustemi, Gurakuqi and Prishtina overthrow Zogu.

His connections to Albanian communists afterwar 1944 where purely nationalist and detached himself from them really quick.

Unfortunately our history is biased and has been written by communists , there are plenty of things we don’t know and probably many of those we know are pure lies.

It’s astonishing how Kurti keeps bringing up Esat Pasha and Avni Rustemi. Some of these myths are still alive in our lives , even after 4-5 generations...

It’s reasonable though because we know where he keeps inpiring (Ukshin Hoti’s political philosophy) and the left (social-democracy, direct democracy, eco-socialism, euro-communism, leftist populism).



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Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:56 am

Using a thing, which is our right, as a bargaining chip defeats the purpose, if you ask me. We should have the right to unify. It's not something we should use as the 'scary outcome' if things don't go our way with the Europeans or Americans.
Kafshatë që s'kapërdihet asht, or vlla, mjerimi..
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Ambasadorët e refuzojnë flamurin shqiptar, fotografohen me Kurtin jashtë zyrës së VV-së

https://zeri.info/aktuale/294358/ambasa ... -se-vv-se/
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:06 pm

Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:30 pm
Unfortunately our history is biased and has been written by communists , there are plenty of things we don’t know and probably many of those we know are pure lies.
Not everything the communists wrote is a lie just because you don't like certain things. Yea there are things that are debatable but some are undeniable truths no matter which way you look at it.
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:51 am

I dirigjuari i Hashim Thacit, Edi Rames dhe Baton Haxhiut e interviston Albin Kurtin.

Kafshatë që s'kapërdihet asht, or vlla, mjerimi..
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Simboli i Diellit wrote:
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https://youtu.be/2VF4PwV7ChM

1. Edi Rama eliminates Bushati from coordinator of north albania Ps (Shkoder region)
2. Rama removes him from Foreign Minister as Bushati was becoming a critical voice within Ps
3. Rama points a 25 years old Foreign Minister from Kosove to score points there
4. Kurti goes to Meta and tells him not to allow the appointment of Gent Cakaj as foreign minister because allegedly he was involved in arm trafficking .
5. Rama and Kurti relationship freeze .
6. Kurti opens Vetvendosje in Albania and seems Bushati will be part of it. Voices also coinvolge some other leftist criticals as Ben Blushi and co who left PS few years ago. Hopefully within three years their voice will be heard and get into the parlament.
Rama has his fingerprints all over VV divide, the whole scenario was to let Kurti powerless and force him to support "Korrigjimin e Kufirit". According to Sonja Biserko, the idea was proposed by Vucic in Belgrade when Rama made the "famous declaration" about Kosovo. Kurti managed to survive the half of party hijacking and created relationship with all Rama opponents. The first sign that Kurti will revenge was the support for student protest and now that he got the power Rama is on the deep trouble. It was Rama who first got involved in Kosovo's internal affairs and later even in Kurti's party, so trust me Kurti will have no mercy for Rama and his UDB spin doctors.
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:43 pm

Plako wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:06 pm
Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:30 pm
Unfortunately our history is biased and has been written by communists , there are plenty of things we don’t know and probably many of those we know are pure lies.
Not everything the communists wrote is a lie just because you don't like certain things. Yea there are things that are debatable but some are undeniable truths no matter which way you look at it.
Our history is definitively biased but the claims everything in our history is false because communists wrote it, it's beyond laughable. Esat Pashë Toptani was piece of shit and traitor. It is still considered one of most loyal servants of serbians interests and every year is commemorated by serbian government.
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Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:01 am

ZenMaster wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:01 pm
Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:06 am


https://youtu.be/2VF4PwV7ChM

1. Edi Rama eliminates Bushati from coordinator of north albania Ps (Shkoder region)
2. Rama removes him from Foreign Minister as Bushati was becoming a critical voice within Ps
3. Rama points a 25 years old Foreign Minister from Kosove to score points there
4. Kurti goes to Meta and tells him not to allow the appointment of Gent Cakaj as foreign minister because allegedly he was involved in arm trafficking .
5. Rama and Kurti relationship freeze .
6. Kurti opens Vetvendosje in Albania and seems Bushati will be part of it. Voices also coinvolge some other leftist criticals as Ben Blushi and co who left PS few years ago. Hopefully within three years their voice will be heard and get into the parlament.
Rama has his fingerprints all over VV divide, the whole scenario was to let Kurti powerless and force him to support "Korrigjimin e Kufirit". According to Sonja Biserko, the idea was proposed by Vucic in Belgrade when Rama made the "famous declaration" about Kosovo. Kurti managed to survive the half of party hijacking and created relationship with all Rama opponents. The first sign that Kurti will revenge was the support for student protest and now that he got the power Rama is on the deep trouble. It was Rama who first got involved in Kosovo's internal affairs and later even in Kurti's party, so trust me Kurti will have no mercy for Rama and his UDB spin doctors.

Really Rama? Come on dude get off these kind of conspiracies. Rama has little to no influence in Kosovo and neither does any kosovar politician in Albania.

Kurti will do absolutely nothing the moment LDK sees that Kurti's politics are bringing us nowhere.
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Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:15 pm

plisi wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:01 am
ZenMaster wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:01 pm
Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:06 am


https://youtu.be/2VF4PwV7ChM

1. Edi Rama eliminates Bushati from coordinator of north albania Ps (Shkoder region)
2. Rama removes him from Foreign Minister as Bushati was becoming a critical voice within Ps
3. Rama points a 25 years old Foreign Minister from Kosove to score points there
4. Kurti goes to Meta and tells him not to allow the appointment of Gent Cakaj as foreign minister because allegedly he was involved in arm trafficking .
5. Rama and Kurti relationship freeze .
6. Kurti opens Vetvendosje in Albania and seems Bushati will be part of it. Voices also coinvolge some other leftist criticals as Ben Blushi and co who left PS few years ago. Hopefully within three years their voice will be heard and get into the parlament.
Rama has his fingerprints all over VV divide, the whole scenario was to let Kurti powerless and force him to support "Korrigjimin e Kufirit". According to Sonja Biserko, the idea was proposed by Vucic in Belgrade when Rama made the "famous declaration" about Kosovo. Kurti managed to survive the half of party hijacking and created relationship with all Rama opponents. The first sign that Kurti will revenge was the support for student protest and now that he got the power Rama is on the deep trouble. It was Rama who first got involved in Kosovo's internal affairs and later even in Kurti's party, so trust me Kurti will have no mercy for Rama and his UDB spin doctors.

Really Rama? Come on dude get off these kind of conspiracies. Rama has little to no influence in Kosovo and neither does any kosovar politician in Albania.

Kurti will do absolutely nothing the moment LDK sees that Kurti's politics are bringing us nowhere.
Rama is a key player in the Kosovo-Serbia dialogues & land exchange proposal. That alone has influence in Kosovo and also since Albania is a UN member while Kosovo is not.

With Cakaj the theory is he was brought in to gain some sympathy from Kosovars. I'm not sure of the situation that well but I think he may fear that VV will start their own party in Albania as well which has been confirmed. Rama is obviously fearful because VV is everything that PS is not. They have grassroots organization, have huge support of the youth, are energetic & passionate. We saw the student protests in Albania last year which look like the ideal VV supporters.

You guys know the sitation better than me but it seems like a little chess match between the both.
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Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:56 pm

Edi Rama is a fake nationalist, a sold out Soros bitch. They're creating a Balkan Schengen and he doesn't support Kosova in the 100% tax to Serbia. The idiot is now opening the albanian market to Serbian business.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF3f72R7sN0
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