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Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:34 pm
by NYVirus
Rama is performing quite a great snow job with these interviews... meanwhile his cabinet and his government is a massive dumpster fire.
Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:37 pm
by NYVirus
artan wrote:If you want to see cheap tactics by politicans look at the US political system. Just as "corrupted" as Russia's political system through the political funding that goes behind the scenes. I guess they are the pinnacle of democracy for you though.
I think there is a very clear distinction between lobbying in DC and straight up stealing elections without the vote of the people. The former has its well known issues, but ultimately the voters decide at the ballot box.
Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:47 pm
by Pjetër
in my opinion gerrymandering is a bit worse than lobbying in the u.s.
Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:47 pm
by Plako
DigBick wrote:Plako wrote:DigBick wrote:You're impressed by Rama because you don't live in Albania and don't know anyone who works for him. This is a bullshit joke to get the populist vote and nothing else. And this coming from the biggest anti-Berisha guy on this forum.
And you do live in Albania? Maybe it's your overall attitude that doesn't allow you to see things in a positive manner. I've never seen you in this forum say anything positive ever be it the national team, our players abroad or about anything ever. Your specialty seems to be how to find fault in anything.
If you want to live in a fantasy land where politicians tug at your heart strings to distract from their grand robberies, then thats your choice, but the reality is something completely different. Ive said plenty of positive things, but these are simply cheap tactics by Rama a few months before election time to gather the right wing/conservative vote, analogous to Berishas "albanofobia" speech before his election.
You dont understand the fact that these politicians will do anything for a few percentage points, and if Rama truly cared about Albanians, he wouldnt hire criminals in parliament and be bribed almost as easy as Berisha. Its easy being a Putin type of populist, but that only leads to plutocratically lead shitholes.
And you extrapolated all that from this one statement below?
Plako wrote:artan wrote:Rama is doing an incredible job so far on the international stage. Very impressed by him.
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Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:52 pm
by NYVirus
Pjetër wrote:in my opinion gerrymandering is a bit worse than lobbying in the u.s.
Gerrymandering is a different issue, and definitely a problematic one. I was responding more to the U.S. system being just as corrupt as Russia's, which cannot be said with a serious face.
Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:07 pm
by Pjetër
NYVirus wrote:Pjetër wrote:in my opinion gerrymandering is a bit worse than lobbying in the u.s.
Gerrymandering is a different issue, and definitely a problematic one. I was responding more to the U.S. system being just as corrupt as Russia's, which cannot be said with a serious face.
yeah americans tend to go overboard with the whole corruption idea. not that there isn't a lot of truth to it but many people will say the system is corrupt just because someone they voted for didn't win an election.
Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:45 pm
by Aurora Bulkualis
The corruption in America and the corruption in Russia are on two different orders of magnitude. Corporations funding politicians is not on the same level as gunning down opposition leaders with 0 consequences.
Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:14 am
by Migjeni
DigBick wrote:You're impressed by Rama because you don't live in Albania and don't know anyone who works for him. This is a bullshit joke to get the populist vote and nothing else. And this coming from the biggest anti-Berisha guy on this forum.
So was I right back then? - And what made you change your mind?
Just read some of the discussions. It begins slowly on page 50 and continues:
www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=258829&page=50
Re: Free Your Mendje
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:31 am
by Shpati
DigBick wrote:The corruption in America and the corruption in Russia are on two different orders of magnitude. Corporations funding politicians is not on the same level as gunning down opposition leaders with 0 consequences.
No corruptions in the USA. only haterz.
Free Your Mendje
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:31 am
by Plako
Migjeni wrote:DigBick wrote:You're impressed by Rama because you don't live in Albania and don't know anyone who works for him. This is a bullshit joke to get the populist vote and nothing else. And this coming from the biggest anti-Berisha guy on this forum.
So was I right back then? - And what made you change your mind?
Just read some of the discussions. It begins slowly on page 50 and continues:
http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthrea ... 29&page=50
In post 502 Owner made some predictions and they all came true
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