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Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:58 pm
by Dallku
Plako wrote: OMG the prospect of Skenderbeu making that kinda of money means that they will basically walk away with the title for the next decade. I'm hoping they crash and burn now.

True but at the same time it would force other Albanian teams to wake up a little and try to be more professional.

I don't think Skenderbeu will advance but I'm hoping that they make some signings to make it a little more competitive at least.

They can't play these type of teams with Radas-Jashanica in central defense and that Brazilian winger at LB. That's a slaughter waiting to happen. Also I like Shkembi but at this level he's a liability because he's too old and doesn't have the energy anymore. Latifi-Salihi-Berisha should be ok on offense but it remains to be seen how they (especially Latifi ) perform against stronger teams.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:30 pm
by Plako
Dallku wrote:
Plako wrote: OMG the prospect of Skenderbeu making that kinda of money means that they will basically walk away with the title for the next decade. I'm hoping they crash and burn now.
True but at the same time it would force other Albanian teams to wake up a little and try to be more professional.
How exactly does a club become more professional though? How can Partizani/Tirana/Vllaznia compete with CL money and the allure of CL football that Skenderbeu will offer to Albanian footballers? Players do not have loyalty anymore and they will chase the money. The Superliga is not the same beast as the EPL where an owner can throw money and get a return on their investment if the team does well.

For a team to challenge Skenderbeu at the moment there has to be a combination of political (nonexistent) and FSHF will to dethrone them and I just don't see that happening as long as Duka is in power. It will take a massive colossal effort, like the one that destroyed Dinamo in 2010 and led to the rise of Skenderbeu.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:21 pm
by Dallku
Come on PLako, we should all know that most of that European money is not going to the club but the pockets of Takaj, Zeqo and those boys. What this guaranteed though is that Skenderbeu doesn't die as a club(like it probably would if it didn't enter Europe this year). Takaj will still spend enough to keep Skenderbeu alive but I highly doubt that he would use that money to make Skender a powerhouse.

I was thinking of other clubs becoming more professional by simply following Skenderbeu's strategy of organization with little money and simply making smarter signings.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:34 pm
by Plako
Dallku wrote:Come on PLako, we should all know that most of that European money is not going to the club but the pockets of Takaj, Zeqo and those boys. What this guaranteed though is that Skenderbeu doesn't die as a club(like it probably would if it didn't enter Europe this year). Takaj will still spend enough to keep Skenderbeu alive but I highly doubt that he would use that money to make Skender a powerhouse.

I was thinking of other clubs becoming more professional by simply following Skenderbeu's strategy of organization with little money and simply making smarter signings.
Well I am aware that the money will be pocketed by Takaj and Co. But still he will reinvest a lot of the money so he can keep the cash cow giving. Plus, it doesn't take much money to dominate Superliga. Skenderbeu did it even without the CL money before. Now they 'll have an easier time retaining the title.

It's easy to say that other clubs should be more professional and spend smart but that is just not how Skenderbeu got here though. Kudos to them though for building a solid team and keeping it up for this long.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:37 pm
by Simboli i Diellit
The only thing i wish for now is to avoid humiliation loses . Dinamo passed through KF Tirana in Uefa Cup in 97 with a 10:2 win on aggregate. The idea of having Skenderbeu play with the likes of Real, Barcelona, Bayern, Juventus , Manchester, Porto is attrattive but gives me that nervous feeling of fear for those humiliating results they could end up archieving. As Dallku said they don't have real CBs now and their left back has been suspended for 4 matches so he can't play against Dinamo... hopefully they sign all those players it's been rumored about. Cana-Basha-Ajeti-Vajushi-Lila-Curri would do wonders there. They could even try and qualify for third place to EL in champions groups in case they pass dinamo

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:52 pm
by ZenMaster
Dallku wrote:Come on PLako, we should all know that most of that European money is not going to the club but the pockets of Takaj, Zeqo and those boys. What this guaranteed though is that Skenderbeu doesn't die as a club(like it probably would if it didn't enter Europe this year). Takaj will still spend enough to keep Skenderbeu alive but I highly doubt that he would use that money to make Skender a powerhouse.

I was thinking of other clubs becoming more professional by simply following Skenderbeu's strategy of organization with little money and simply making smarter signings.
Takaj won't start spending as sugar daddy, he is too smart to do that mistake. Beside luck in draw i think Takaj deserves all the credit for this success because he is excellent manager.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:38 pm
by artan
Plako wrote:
Dallku wrote:
Plako wrote: OMG the prospect of Skenderbeu making that kinda of money means that they will basically walk away with the title for the next decade. I'm hoping they crash and burn now.
True but at the same time it would force other Albanian teams to wake up a little and try to be more professional.
How exactly does a club become more professional though? How can Partizani/Tirana/Vllaznia compete with CL money and the allure of CL football that Skenderbeu will offer to Albanian footballers? Players do not have loyalty anymore and they will chase the money. The Superliga is not the same beast as the EPL where an owner can throw money and get a return on their investment if the team does well.

For a team to challenge Skenderbeu at the moment there has to be a combination of political (nonexistent) and FSHF will to dethrone them and I just don't see that happening as long as Duka is in power. It will take a massive colossal effort, like the one that destroyed Dinamo in 2010 and led to the rise of Skenderbeu.
A team like Tirona lost one of the best superliga players(Bakaj) to some random Israeli team because they didn't want to match the salary. Not to skenderbeu but to Israel.. Kukesi lost Pejic to Iran. That's the difference between Skenderbeu and the rest of the league. Skenderbeu kept their core together.

A nice move for Skenderbeu would be Agolli.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:35 pm
by vata10
Plako wrote:
totti10 wrote:Idk much about Dinamo, but they look weak in defence. Think Skenderbeu will have their chances too, they can't be wasteful this time around, or it will be last year's Bate all over again.

Just Qualifying for the ChL group stages Skenderbeu is guaranteed 8,2 mln €. That's about three times the EL money.

They should seriously try to bring in the likes of Ajeti, Basha and Lila and go all in for the big money.
OMG the prospect of Skenderbeu making that kinda of money means that they will basically walk away with the title for the next decade. I'm hoping they crash and burn now.
:lol: what i thought would happen to them after their 1st, 2nd and 3rd title, then I got bored. I think they've done a great work improving every year and maintaining the hunger of winning. Imo logically they should be the example for the other teams to follow , but everyone knows Kukesi are.

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:11 pm
by Aurora Bulkualis
Dragoi wrote:Dinamo passed through KF Tirana in Uefa Cup in 97 with a 10:2 win on aggregate.
Yeah, but buses weren't invented back then. I really don't care about "humiliation" if they make CL group stages. Even APOEL made it to CL QFs. I don't see what the big deal is.

DZ is worth 9 times Skenderbeu's total team though. Hard to see how they'll make it through. And Ademi is supposedly their most expensive player according to transfermarkt :lol:

Re: Albanian teams on european cups

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:58 am
by Simboli i Diellit
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Dragoi wrote:Dinamo passed through KF Tirana in Uefa Cup in 97 with a 10:2 win on aggregate.
Yeah, but buses weren't invented back then. I really don't care about "humiliation" if they make CL group stages. Even APOEL made it to CL QFs. I don't see what the big deal is.

DZ is worth 9 times Skenderbeu's total team though. Hard to see how they'll make it through. And Ademi is supposedly their most expensive player according to transfermarkt :lol:
I am worried that's all [FACE WITH STUCK-OUT TONGUE AND WINKING EYE] Skenderbeu needs to get few other players to cover the defensive roles from defensive midfielders to Cbs. Curri , Dushku, Ajeti are without a team if i'm not mistaken and any of them would be better than what they got now ...