[WC 2018] Albania - Israel - November 12

[Simboli i Diellit]

#OnTopicPlease

[KelmendVllazni]

It's funny how these right wing neo-nazi's try to simplify things and present a false dichotomy to "show" how leftists are wrong when in reality they're simplifying the issues solely because they don't possess the brain capacity to have original and/or analytical thoughts. Such is the life of a reactionary.

You can criticize Israel's apartheid state and criticize the oppression that Islam (and all religions) cause.

Good read if you have the time (Long):
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/norman-fi ... yment/amp/

Back to topic -- I feel that this is going to be a 0-0 draw.

[Rodon]

There are two types of Palestinian supporter:
1) The ultra leftist social justice warrior
2) The islamist

I don't need to tell in wich category the Shqipfoles fall. Unfortunately we have many of those rats.

Your mind has been poisoned by far right ideology. The Palestinian issue is first and foremost an issue of oppression. There is a reason why the Northern Irish Catholics (many former supporters of the IRA) sympathize with the Palestinian plight and the Protestants support Israel (they support English rule over the Northern part of Ireland). Many Albanians support the Palestinian cause because we see parallels with our plight as a people against the Serbian rule in Kosova.


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Complete nonsense, please don't make up stuff. Nobody cares about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in Albania except the islamist gypsy vermins.

The only thing Albanians need to learn is to think "Does this thing benefits/damages Albania?", everything else that doesn't answer this question is contourn.

Premise, I couldn't care less about their conflict, they can kill eachothers for all I care because it doesn't concerns me or Albanians the slightest (and I don't agree with Leandro either when he is pro Israel, they could be a democracy or a totalitarian regime, still wouldn't change the fact that is none of our buisness), but if you, and any other here falls so simply with this idiotic rhetoric of "muh oppression muh rights solidarity" then you should know that a good share of Muslim Palestinians are indeed just converted Jews that over time were forced to convert by coercion.

So where is muh oppression now Plako?

[Leandro]

for me the question israel vs anyone else in middle east is not one of moral high ground. israel is producing tangible positive stuff like science and arts. what is the rest producing? jihad?

hating israel is in the school curriculum in palestine. they use their children as shields! they want fundamentalism

victims? give me a break

[Plako]

Complete nonsense, please don't make up stuff. Nobody cares about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in Albania except the islamist gypsy vermins.

I can't speak for all Albanians (btw there are plenty of Albanians who support Israel) but I can speak for a small subset who think and feel like me. For me this is simply an issue of oppression and injustice upon a whole people supported by the West as Israel is the last disputed outpost of Western colonial rule.


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[Plako]

hating israel is in the school curriculum in palestine.

Huh? So what do you expect them to do? What do we teach kids in our schools? That we should love Serbia and Greece? Gimme a break

[Migjeni]

Hypocrites some of you.

In your homes you probably support Serbia and Greece too. They gave those damn Muslims in Bosnia and Kosova what was deserved. Just like Israel is doing in the Middle East. Can't support one while not supporting the other without being hypocrites.

Also; Back to topic.

[artan]

Israeli Jews are textbook settlers and clearly stole Israel from the Palestinians with the support from the West(A decade before Hitler even was relevant..) Not only did they steal the land but they uprooted the local population into exile(Many are still refugees to this day) and haven't compensated them for their property. This process is still in effect today where the Israeli government are creating settlements in Arab territories(Gaza, Palestine..) with Jewish settlers from all over the world that the Israeli government are paying to live in these areas to increase their demographics. Literally paying to build these jewish settlers homes, security costs(guarded by soliders), monthly benefits and stipends for them to bread like rabbits. Meanwhile the arabs are getting more cramped in a dwindling area.

It's not even a Muslim vs Jew thing. It's common sense. And we all know the Jews can get away with it as they have that sweet $$ and power which runs the world.

[Leandro]

if the situation was the other way around the jews would all be long dead, like it's happening elsewhere in the middle east where there's a genocide on anything not muslim. it's even in their religion that other religions are not acceptable. so wtf?

israel is a modern state and i'll tell you what, at the end of the day they won't be islamised like kosovistan, macedonistan or albanistan

comparing middle east muslims with albanian muslims aka "im a muslim but ive never been in mosque, just in church" is ridiculous lol. just shows once again that the monocellulars are here amongst us

we do have some middle eastern type muslims among us, they cant stop licking araboturkish ass and spread hate on our national heroes. these are migjenakbar's favourites

ha sallam e llokum

[Simboli i Diellit]

Nga je ti Leandro? Ca besimi fetar praktikon?