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Leandro wrote:if the situation was the other way around the jews would all be long dead, like it's happening elsewhere in the middle east where there's a genocide on anything not muslim. it's even in their religion that other religions are not acceptable. so wtf?

Well if the Germans had won WWII the end result would have been the same. If anything the pogroms against the Jews are more of a European thing than Middle Eastern thing.



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Leandro wrote:if the situation was the other way around the jews would all be long dead, like it's happening elsewhere in the middle east where there's a genocide on anything not muslim. it's even in their religion that other religions are not acceptable. so wtf?

Well if the Germans had won WWII the end result would have been the same. If anything the pogroms against the Jews are more of a European thing than Middle Eastern thing.



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Guest wrote:Well if the Germans had won WWII the end result would have been the same. If anything the pogroms against the Jews are more of a European thing than Middle Eastern thing.

erm, no? first of all, jew hating is in the quran. secondly, from europe it was only hitler, one guy

get your facts straight

Leandro wrote:

Guest wrote:Well if the Germans had won WWII the end result would have been the same. If anything the pogroms against the Jews are more of a European thing than Middle Eastern thing.

erm, no? first of all, jew hating is in the quran. secondly, from europe it was only hitler, one guy

get your facts straight

Aha dude you talking about facts. Do you know anything about Sephardic Jews and where they're originally from? Anything about Warsaw ghettos? Anything about Thessaloniki Jews? Where the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was published?


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Migjeni wrote:Hypocrites some of you.

In your homes you probably support Serbia and Greece too. They gave those damn Muslims in Bosnia and Kosova what was deserved. Just like Israel is doing in the Middle East. Can't support one while not supporting the other without being hypocrites.

Also; Back to topic.

Bro there is a huge difference between Israel, Serbia and Greece. I personally couldn't care less about Israel, however the same principles that created Israel we're applied towards Kosova independence(genocided people looking for the right to self-determination). With that said they definitely abuse the Palestinian population which to me is disgusting. However they also share a lot similarities with Albanians in that we're two populations surrounded by countries that hate us / want our lands. So at the end of the day I don't agree with everything Israel does but who else would you put in charge? Just being realistic, anyone else would be even worse..

Also, FFS guys we play Israel and some of you are debating that the Nazi's victory would have been better for us? This shows the ignorance of our people. Hitler didn't give a f*** about Albania he just knew that we we're white Muslims which he obsessed over (Adolph thought Christianity made Germans soft), and we weren't Slavs (whom he hated). He would have enslaved us after the war also and anyone who denies that is an idiot.

Aha dude you talking about facts. Do you know anything about Sephardic Jews and where they're originally from? Anything about Warsaw ghettos? Anything about Thessaloniki Jews? Where the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was published?

well i dont know much about most of these groups and i dont think you do either. also i dont see how this is relevant in any way. muslims have been wanting to eradicate jews for over one millenium. this is a historic fact, it's in the quran and hadith. muslims hate jews today and this is also a fact

so i dont get the idea here, when muslims hate jews it's ok but when jews hate them back it's not? lol. and what difference does it make what this or that "zionist" is doing. the jew hating lobby has done a great job in popularizing that word "zionist". if wiki is to be trusted,

Zionism is a nationalist political movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (roughly corresponding to Palestine, Canaan or the Holy Land).[1][2][3][4] Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, in reaction to anti-Semitic and exclusionary nationalist movements in Europe.[5][6] Soon after this, most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.

doesnt sound so bad to me? isnt this what every nationalist movement has aspired to? isnt this what we're saying in our chants "shqipri etnike" and stuff? why when everyone else does this it's ok, when we ourselves do it it,s ok but when jews do it it's bad?

Albanian Damien that albanians would be much better off with an axis victory (assuming we'd be aligned) does not need much debate. and btw historical accuracy has nothing to do with personal feelings. saying that we'd be better off does not equal supporting the nazis

oh btw i forgot to mention, i used to live in thessaloniki, and funny that you mention the jews of thessaloniki cause i used to work at the very building where supposedly jews gathered to do conspiracy shit and stuff (according to rumours)

...i never saw anyone there except those who worked at my company

The Axis simply used Greater Albania as a tool. They were going to f*** us over in the end regardless. So I just simply disagree. Hitler was going to turn on all his "friends" eventually. He even tried to invade Russia FFS after signing non-aggression treaties.