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So what is the situation before the Albanian elections in 2017? Does it look like the PS will win again?

Albo_eagle wrote:So what is the situation before the Albanian elections in 2017? Does it look like the PS will win again?

A poll showed 60% of people have a negative view of PS, and 70% of PD. PS will get most votes even though they're allied with Capo Mafioso Ilir Meta, because PD is still being lead by Capo Retardo Berisha who got raped last time and won't leave. Now Meta wants to become President before elections to gain immunity, because the new reforms (if passed) could mean he is thrown in jail, like in Croatia/Romania. But without LSI, Rama can't win outright majority.

I fully expect some outside populist party, either by Blushi or Bojaxhi, to get a substantial chunk of the vote, and prevent an outright majority sending all of parliament into deadlock in 2017.

MadMan wrote:Which polls? Albanian online portals? You can't take 'em seriously?! Immigration votes hardly count when it comes to the elections.

Surely you aren't trying to label me as a supporter of Thaci or Mustafa? I can't stress how much I dislike these people.

We are in desperate need of new generation of politicians. I have been an avid supporter of VV until Shpend Ahmetis third year as mayor of Prishtina and VV-s "bashkëpunim" with Ramushi and Limaj. You have to understand that when I vote for VV, I do it because I DO NOT want to see people like Ramushi, Limaj, Thaci, Mustaf in power or anywhere near a position of power.

Nope, real polls done by the media - not internet. On what do you base your claim that they've lost support? Do you have any polls, or is it just your personal opinion?

I'm not, I just said I haven't seen you say that about Thaci and Mustafa. The problem with those who claim to want new voices and a new class of politicians while being against Albin Kurti & VV is that they're not sincere. Now, I don't know whether you're in this category or not. But let's be realistic; VV is the ONLY real alternative in Kosove.

Also; Shpendi hasn't been mayor of Prishtina three years yet.

VV aren't going to win 51% of the votes, so only an idiot would say they should stay away from coalitions. But the thing is when they wanted to make a coalition with AAK & Nisma it failed, because AAK & Nisma were more interested in positions rather than the program, and VV wouldn't budge when it came to the program - also they told Ramushi that he couldn't be prime minister as he's tainted. It's because of VV's consistency that the so-called 'opozita e bashkuar' isn't 'e bashkuar' anymore. Because they wouldn't give up their ideals nor their beliefs just to gain power.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote:

Albo_eagle wrote:So what is the situation before the Albanian elections in 2017? Does it look like the PS will win again?

A poll showed 60% of people have a negative view of PS, and 70% of PD. PS will get most votes even though they're allied with Capo Mafioso Ilir Meta, because PD is still being lead by Capo Retardo Berisha who got raped last time and won't leave. Now Meta wants to become President before elections to gain immunity, because the new reforms (if passed) could mean he is thrown in jail, like in Croatia/Romania. But without LSI, Rama can't win outright majority.

I fully expect some outside populist party, either by Blushi or Bojaxhi, to get a substantial chunk of the vote, and prevent an outright majority sending all of parliament into deadlock in 2017.

I really do not want PS to win. Whenever Rama talks about a bashkim Kombëtar he says it will occur in the EU, which is a load of crap as that is not really a bashkim Kombëtar as he will also then be united with greece. The PD on the other hand have always had good feelings towards the bashkim Kombëtar and Vetëvendosja and Lulzim Basha seem to have quite a good relationship. I know the PD are not as patriotic as PDIU or Aleanca Kuq e Zi but they are more than PS and can win an election. Vetëvendosja want a bashkim Kombëtar and it obviously has to be reciprocated in Albania by the political party in charge there of Vetëvendosja win.

Migjeni wrote: Nope, real polls done by the media - not internet. On what do you base your claim that they've lost support? Do you have any polls, or is it just your personal opinion?

It would be interesting to see them. But knowing from the previous elections, these polls are certainly not to be taken seriously.

Migjeni wrote:I'm not, I just said I haven't seen you say that about Thaci and Mustafa. The problem with those who claim to want new voices and a new class of politicians while being against Albin Kurti & VV is that they're not sincere. Now, I don't know whether you're in this category or not. But let's be realistic; VV is the ONLY real alternative in Kosove.

According to you, who's a blind supporter of VV, just as bad as the blind supporters of PDK and LDK.

Migjeni wrote:Also; Shpendi hasn't been mayor of Prishtina three years yet.

He's close to his third year and there's parts of Prishtina that look like a war-zone. I actually like Shpendi, he'd probably gain my vote if he left VV.

Migjeni wrote:VV aren't going to win 51% of the votes, so only an idiot would say they should stay away from coalitions. But the thing is when they wanted to make a coalition with AAK & Nisma it failed, because AAK & Nisma were more interested in positions rather than the program, and VV wouldn't budge when it came to the program - also they told Ramushi that he couldn't be prime minister as he's tainted. It's because of VV's consistency that the so-called 'opozita e bashkuar' isn't 'e bashkuar' anymore. Because they wouldn't give up their ideals nor their beliefs just to gain power.

I'm an idiot because I do not want the party that I voted for to create a coalition with the same criminals I want out? Ok then. It's not even the coalition, it's also the dubious people they have as party members also.

This is democracy, people vote, you do not receive the majority of the votes you do not create a coalition with mangupat and try overthrow the government violently.

MadMan wrote:It would be interesting to see them. But knowing from the previous elections, these polls are certainly not to be taken seriously.

According to you, who's a blind supporter of VV, just as bad as the blind supporters of PDK and LDK.

He's close to his third year and there's parts of Prishtina that look like a war-zone. I actually like Shpendi, he'd probably gain my vote if he left VV.

I'm an idiot because I do not want the party that I voted for to create a coalition with the same criminals I want out? Ok then. It's not even the coalition, it's also the dubious people they have as party members also.

This is democracy, people vote, you do not receive the majority of the votes you do not create a coalition with mangupat and try overthrow the government violently.

I actually asked you a question on what you were basing your comments on that they've lost their support? Which trusttworthy polls can you give show me to back up that claim?

I'm a blind supporter? Instead of calling me that tell me who and which other realistic alternatives there are in Kosova? - I'm waiting for two things now. Something to back up your claims of them losing support and realistic alternatives to VV in Kosove.

What did you expect him to do in two years? - He's not close to three years. He's been mayor three years in january 2017. You're very unrealistic if you expected him to turn Prishtina into New York after 15 years of illegal building and shkatrrim te qytetit nga ana e PLDK-se. Shpendi tried to get into parliament without VV, but him & the rest of the FER-people didn't get enough votes.

Who has tried to overthrow the government violently? Also, there wasn't any coalition, as VV wouldn't give up on their principals and sell out just to be in power. You're speaking like a PDK-puppet, which is further proof that you're not being sincere in your criticism of VV. If only those of you who criticize VV would be as vehement in your criticism and struggle against Thaci, Veseli & Mustafa we might see Kosova prosper, but you lot aren't sincere in your criticism and treat VV as the biggest problem in Kosove.

Migjeni wrote: You're speaking like a PDK-puppet, which is further proof that you're not being sincere in your criticism of VV. If only those of you who criticize VV would be as vehement in your criticism and struggle against Thaci, Veseli & Mustafa we might see Kosova prosper, but you lot aren't sincere in your criticism and treat VV as the biggest problem in Kosove.

One more reason why I do not like VV anymore. People like you, first you labelled me a Mustafa & Thaci fan, now a PDK puppet.

I remember when I would argue against PDK or LDK voters, they would react the same way as you do. Pathetic.

VV has turned into a pile of shit just like PDK, AAK etj.

I loved VV before it entered politics. But with the likes of Rexhep Selimi, good fucking luck.

Rexhep Selimi, Ramush Haradinj, Fatmir Limaj, Hashim Thaci and co kan qene nënshkruesit e Zejadnices qe nga viti 1999. Por per cudi disa prej tyre tash jan zgjuar nga gjumi dhe behen patriota. Ky eshte ofendimi me i madh qe mund ti ndodh popullit shqiptar te Kosoves.

Gjithashtu te sygjeroj mos kerce si nje pule te me akuzosh per nje sherbetor te PDKs, sepse me te vertet je duke me ofenduar. Per mua eshte njesoj sikur te me thuash ke punuar per shkiet.

MadMan wrote: One more reason why I do not like VV anymore. People like you, first you labelled me a Mustafa & Thaci fan, now a PDK puppet.

I remember when I would argue against PDK or LDK voters, they would react the same way as you do. Pathetic.

VV has turned into a pile of shit just like PDK, AAK etj.

I loved VV before it entered politics. But with the likes of Rexhep Selimi, good fucking luck.

Rexhep Selimi, Ramush Haradinj, Fatmir Limaj, Hashim Thaci and co kan qene nënshkruesit e Zejadnices qe nga viti 1999. Por per cudi disa prej tyre tash jan zgjuar nga gjumi dhe behen patriota. Ky eshte ofendimi me i madh qe mund ti ndodh popullit shqiptar te Kosoves.

Gjithashtu te sygjeroj mos kerce si nje pule te me akuzosh per nje sherbetor te PDKs, sepse me te vertet je duke me ofenduar. Per mua eshte njesoj sikur te me thuash ke punuar per shkiet.

It's funny, you get offended when I ask you about alternatives and things which back up your bogus claims. You get offended, when I point out that you speak like a PDK puppet. I know it hurts, but it's the truth. When offering no evidence to back up your claims and not giving believeable and realistic alternative, you become just that; An insincere hater. I didn't label you shit, so stop whining. I just pointed that you're talking smack about VV, but I've never seen you talk that way about Thaci, Veseli & Mustafa, and that you spoke like a PDK puppet because you use the same bogus "arguments" as they do.

They only thing you've done has been to call VV names, call me names and to bitch. Now, you can bitch all you want, but the thing that makes you insincere is that you liked VV before them entering politics. When they weren't a threat to PDK & LDK

Rexhep Selimi is one man. I'm not to fond of him, either, but to make VV out to be the main problem in Kosova is bullshit and you know that. Why not mention the dozens of others who are good? - Why only mention Rexhep Selimi? Also, it's funny that you take it to heart that I said you speak like a PDK puppet, while you're calling VV a pile of shit like PDK - hypocrisy much? - Also, you just compared me to PDK & LDK voters, so please, don't get so emotional.

As opposed to both you and I, they're the ones being beaten up during protests to protect Kosova, so save that 'kercim pulash' for yourself and the likes of you who're doing the governments job for them without even being paid.

Migjeni wrote: It's funny, you get offended when I ask you about alternatives and things which back up your bogus claims.

You clearly have some reading trouble. No need for me to even address ther other nonsense you just wrote.

MadMan wrote:You clearly have some reading trouble. No need for me to even address ther other nonsense you just wrote.

Yeah, you're good with that. Not addressing or backing up your claims with anything credible.

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