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Berti
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Can't stop laughing at Albanian "experts" and European faggots judging Britain for choosing to leave. Like you are allowed to have a say on democratic views when your vote costs 2000 leke.
Let's make one thing clear, Nigel Farage and the right wing in Britain are the only reason why the vote was so close!! Most people either didn't vote or voted in just not to identify with these people!!
EU had this coming as it doesn't listen due to it becoming a corporate without human entities. What started as a Nobel idea was replaced with an ambitious and unrealistic and above all aggressive plan making the notion of sovranity a myth.
Before you can judge one of the world's greatest economies and democracies for leaving, you have to first ask the question; what has it left?
What is the current vision of EU? If it is such a good one, why is the majority of these nations failing so badly? And I'm talking leading nations like Italy and Spain and co. Why is it so stubborn and deaf to any reform to adapt to future?
How can you judge UK for xenophobia when it's the only nation who wanted Turkey in, while all Europe was coming up with stuff like "we have to preserve our Christian identity"? There are so many questions that would take me years.
U.K. can be racist yes, but nowhere near any European country who are completely open about it. Whoever thinks UK can't do it alone is dreaming. There's a whole world out there that EU is neglecting. EU has never been UK's main partner. Due to it has lost its leading role towards the commonwealth and the rest of its former interests that made it prosperous.
Europhiles talk a lot about a progressive union. But is it really an Union? Greece will tell you otherwise, Italy, Spain and Portugal too. EU don't give a shit about Eastern ones or Balkans as they only use them for cheap labour and political power so they don't count.
When I hear Europeans and specially Albanians saying the "provinces" voted out, it makes me laugh. The provinces that gave Shakespeare and co? Behave
Edi Rama is ok with half of the country starving but need to give 1m euros to millionaire footballers for show. A narco state leader giving opinion about the nation who gave the world the best judicial system. And as for the EU playing hard ball it's ok. Try it. See what happens. Let's see who needs whom most.
So in my beloved adopted country's behalf I'll just say . Thanks very much but we are gonna have a cup of tea and try and sort this out on our own as where's a will there's a way. But we'll come visit
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It's not all about UK and them being racist, xenophobic ect. They were the only big country to keep their own money , they had special treatments that shouldn't been allowed . A European Union should be a free work market like the rest of Europe, one from Spain, Poland ect can go to work in Germany, Holland, France without needing loads of permits to do that. I don't really care what will happen to UK , but i'm quite sure that this was a strong awakening punch to European institution . This will certainly improve them if they want this Union dream to live. Britain's departure will leave a vacoom that will most likely be covered by Germany , this will certainly raise the number of duties some countries have to fulfill to enter the union which is a bad thing to Albania . Inside the union like now in Croatia our justice reforms and other things would be solved much easier. People could move in the free work market and wouldn't need to seek asylum . I don't think Spain , France, Portugal , Netherland or Italy would leave the union because the ripercussions for these countries would be much worse. Leaving only Germany as the big partner in EU would meen more "austery ". In Italy they are preparing a referendum to leave the Euro coin but not to leave the EU , only Lega Nord (fascists) are asking for leaving the EU but they are run by ignorants with a big I just like Marie Le Penn. Euro will become better and the EU should make an example of Britan i hope.
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Come on don't be delusional now, the EU just lost 20% of it's GDP, so it is bold to say they EU which was already failing will now become better. The UK is the fifth biggest economy in the world so really think about what just left the EU. I drove past the migrant camps in Calais this year and it really is a sight, the people there are in France, they can go to Germany or whatever but they are living in tents just to try to get to the UK, they do not want the EU.

I voted to leave, and i in no way associate myself with the Conservatives let alone Ukip, i voted to leave the EU as the power is no longer with the people so it is a dictatorship. The funding the UK once gave to the EU will needto be replaced by someone, probably the majority by Germany and France, where people are already mad at the EU (especially France), this is very likely to cause France to leave the EU. The thing is going down. It is a federation just like Yugoslavia, they come and go. This is why Albin Kurti is so smart, he said yes we should try to enter the EU but this does not replace our Bashkim Kombëtar, as the EU is here today but gone tomorrow. Then i ask what is there to stop serbia just waltzing in and taking Kosova back, i swear so many people in Kosovë make me so mad they have no logic. Now all these countries which were planning to come into the EU like Albania, Montenagro and so on will be last on the EU agenda and should see their membership pushed back a few years as the purse strings are more tight now.

I am very glad the UK left and i hope Albania never joins, if we wise up then we will first work towards a Bashkim Kombëtar and not a Bashkim European.

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Berti
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Simboli. Your version of EU is a very simplified one cos I thought that it was much more than cheap workers for big nations. There are real problems financially in a centralised European bank with the way euro is handled by the corporate EU. UK warned of this hence why it didn't join the euro and kept such a strong pound. Let's not forget who is the financial city of Europe. We all know what happens if you leave it to the Europeans.
Britan always gets treated like a rebel in EU and always gets rejected on whatever reforms it asks.
But of course EU does send the bill for all the daily Fvck ups. What do EU nations spend on security?
U.K. Is the only nation that puts the money where mouth is and gets involved with the U.S in any security operations. Wright or wrong.
If you want to talk about democracy above all, who are all these people in EU courts that make the most important decisions about Europe without consulting with the people? Who elects them? And what is their mandate? What happens if we are not happy with their decisions? Where do we go to? Or shall we just follow Merkel and some euro parliament faggots like sheep without questioning just for a free movement cause. East sold their souls for a passport. Or shall we just result to call anyone who looks for a real progressive future a xenophobe just for the Fvck of it. How about try and make this very unaccountable powerful people accountable for their actions.
As for EU making an example of Britain behave.
Don't forget it's not some Lithuania you are talking about
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Berti wrote: And as for the EU playing hard ball it's ok. Try it. See what happens. Let's see who needs whom most.
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That is why Boris is already talking about accepting all the EU terms just as before, but now without any say within the EU. Isn't this kind of funny? The leader of the LEAVE campaign suddenly saying hey we still want to be part of the EU. Sorry we didn't see it would actually turn out like this.

The pis take here is that this decision was left to the people. What is the point in having politicians?

UK would been better to try and change things withing the EU rather than just deciding to LEAVE. A decision nonetheless taken by the people. Ridiculous.

The prime minister resigned, and this was a prime minister favoured by the Tories/people who probably voted to leave. Places like Cornwall voting to leave, a place that has been benefiting from the EU funds.
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The funniest part of the whole thing is the people who voted to leave the EU and then after it won them saying they regretted the decision.

Smart folks these Brits.
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The funniest thing is people are complaining about 2 billion pounds UK gives to the EU, while they lost tens of billions of pounds in just one day yesterday, when the markets crashed. The pound is in a massive freefall, which is terrible for a service based economy like the UK. Can't believe how gullible people are. The EU being a "dictatorship" is a joke to say the least.

That's not to say EU is some amazing organization or anything, but every economist predicted financial collapse if Britain left, and very few listened.
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Berti
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Do not listen to the media people. Too much but hurt over this obviosly. Regretted? The dust has not settled yet. Give it a month or so. Europe will obviosly attack in media due to being rejected but since when do Brits give a flying Fvck about Europe? It's gone, deal with it
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Lool about people regretting their vote, these are people who should not be allowed to vote and can be found on both sides, nothing special.

As for saying it is unbelievable how gullible people are, we i think it is unbelievable how gullible you are. The EU is the one tricking people on you side, not the ones on the leave side.

It is a simpleas this, if the government do something we do not want then we can get rid of them and hold them accountable to their actions, if the EU do something we do not want we just have to accept it. Not any more though.

As we are on an Albanian forum i feel we should link everything back to Albania. If the EU collapses or even if our leaders see that the EU is not 'the promised land' then the chances of a Bashkim Kombëtar increase very much as we go back to redrawing borders, and this ridiculous idea Rama had of Bashkim Kombëtar occuring inside the EU disappears.
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