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[Albo_eagle]

I like many people who voted keave do not associate myself with Ukip, and now we have left do not think for one minute Ukip will have any power. Ukip are not the ones with the power.

Think what you want but i am so glad we have finally left that disaster they call the EU, and am very confident France will follow us out.

[Simboli i Diellit]

[KelmendVllazni]

I find it ironic how UK after hundreds of years colonizing the entire world claims it is being colonized now and decides to peace-bounce without thinking of any repercussions.

I don't agree with the neoliberal institution that is the EU but leaving it and placing the entire world's economy in shambles isn't an option. The European economy was already on a decline. Brexit is another shock to an already weak system, accelerating the process whereby social alienation and bad economic outcomes produce bad political outcomes, and bad political outcomes produce worsened economic outcomes and further social alienation.

Brexit will just be a green-flag for implementation of separatist, xenophobic, and racist policies all over Europe. That has hostile implications for the euro, which is already under the hazard of Grexit. Subsequently, sterling’s weakness stands to be complemented by a dwindling of the euro, postulating an additional currency passage for spreading Brexit’s shockwaves into the global economy.

[Migjeni]

When David Cameron resigned Friday after the referendum he de facto killed the Leave-campaign.

Cameron has left it to his successor to be the one who'll send the 'divorce papers' so the discussion on leaving can officially begin. And since he has left, there's no single conservative 'leave politician' who has been ready to send those papers.

Whether it has been Boris Johnson, Michael Gove or Daniel Hannan, the message has been the same: We're in no hurry to ask the EU for a formal start of the negotiations to leave the union.

They've actually been in so little of a hurry, that it's not really clear whether they will ever ask the EU for these leave negotiations. The rules for leaving the EU are quite clear. It's described in the Lisbon-treaty article 50 how a member country leaves. When a country like GB formally asks to leave, it has two years to negotiate a deal for leaving.

The agreement has to be an 'third country'-agreement which means that it has to be an agreement between the EU and GB, which further means that GB will stop being a member of the EU and not have participate in meetings in the EU or have MPs of the European Parliament etc.

After the referendum several EU countries have asked GB to send the 'divorce papers' quickly and activate article 50, so they can leave as soon as possible.

The other 27 countries want a quick resolution of GB's future link to the EU. Right now there's uncertainty, which businesses, financial markets, citizens and politicians hate. But interestingly enough the Leave-campaign is in no hurry. On the contrary leading people from that camp say that they want 'informal' negotiations. It's not said aloud, but this de facto means, that this wish for 'informal' negotiations is really a wish for GB to stay in the EU but to get a new and better deal for GB which gives them further concessions towards the EU, but also means that GB will stay in the union.

Such an agreement will mean, that the EU and GB will not have to go through a very extensive, cumbersome and very costly 'divorce'.

A new agreement between the EU and GB, which could be extra rights for GB when it comes to EU-immigration would be much easier solution for every party than an entire break between the two.

The British voters who've voted to leave and been promised 350 million pounds ekstra each week for a the British NHS and school system will of course be disappointed and feel screwed over, but businesses and the political elite will be content with the current status quo to continue.

Now with all that being said, it's not all up the GB what they want. Merkel, who we can all agree, is the EU's undisputed leader, has been known not be a woman which acts. She hesitates a lot and doesn't like to make major decisions, which usually means that she'll opt for the decision which means that a very small change happens. And if she can propose an agreement which prevents a total 'divorce', she'll do that. And it's not something I'm making up, in the beginning of the Leave-campaign Boris Johnson mentioned, that GB, with a leave vote, would be in a much better position to get a better deal with the EU than Cameron had done earlier. And it seems he's right, although it's still very early to say.

Cameron's resignation is very special, because in contrast to the referendums in all other countries which have voted no to something regarding the EU, the Leave-parties have never been the ones who have been in government or who have had to take responsibility for the 'no' they've campaigned for. They've left it to the government then to negotiate with the EU. It's been the case in Denmark, Holland, France and Ireland, that they nay-sayers, have stayed out of office. But this will not be the case in GB's case after Cameron chose to leave office.

Now it's up to the Leave-campaign to find a leader of the conservative party, who will be the new prime minister, and who will lead the negotiations with the EU. In other words, the next leader of the conservative party will be the one who'll pull GB entirely out of the EU, or negotiate a new agreement with the EU, which will ignore the vote of the British people and which will mean that GB will remain.

As I mentioned earlier, there's none of the proposed candidates who'll be ready to activate article 50, and that's the first question they should and will be asked: "Will you activate article 50?"

If the negotiations end up with the GB staying in the EU with an agreement which will give them more rights on restricting the free movement of EU-citizens this will have broad ramifications in all of Europe, where EU-critical parties will ask for referendums on having those same restrictions in place as the Brits - might get. Such a solution will create a lot of new, national Europe-political problems, but as I've mentioned before, if I know Merkel right and her way of doing politics, she'll prefer new problems ahead rather than solving the big problem at hand.

For me, the Brits have screwed themselves. Let them leave, who gives a shit, they're already regretting with each passing day. Yes, the EU needs reforms, but not the reforms that the Brits are proposing. Remember, this is a country where Thatcherism and Blair's "third way" was invented - those ideas are some of the most prevailing in the EU, when it comes to economical policies, so let them bitch. So I hope, I'm wrong about Merkel and she won't give in to the Brits' wishes, the Brits need the EU more than the other way around.

Also: LOL

"EU Referendum Local Results 2016 vs. Mad Cow Disease Outbreak Areas 1992"

[Plako]

They got Iraqi law in London now

https://mobile.twitter.com/NoLaughingMa ... 84/video/1


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[Simboli i Diellit]

Farange in EU parliament: https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/v ... 068921939/ Junker replied to him: https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/v ... 902811939/

[Albo_eagle]

That was actually funny.

[Rodon]

Lol I didn't know to have signed up in a liberal circle jerk site.

Type:
- "Kalergi Plan"
- "European Stability Mechanism (ESM)"
- "European Central Bank (ECB) private bank"

It's the internet, you have plenty of neutral sources to inform yourself, it would be good to turn off the TV and start to understand what the EU really stands for.

[Migjeni]

^^ You belong to forums discussing eugenics & pure races. Try Stormfront.