Re: Exodus 2.0 - Kombetarja

With memories of the golden years (80's) of the albanian football still fresh on her mind, Albania is now attempting to recreate its strong football legacy. As young players start making their names abroad, the future is looking bright for Albanian football!

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Dallku wrote:It's only some Albania leftovers and some overhyped/rated young players that are confirmed to switch to Kosovo so far.

The big names don't look like switching..

There are THOUSANDS of Kosovars who are begging Shaqiri, G.Xhaka on social media to play for Kosovo.

What's interesting about Kosovars is that they won't call them "traitors" if they refuse. They'll still be proud of them. That's one major difference in mentality between them and Albanians from Albania who would curse like hell athletes in situations of refusal.

Ne Shqiperi interesimi per Kombetaren ka filluar shume vone dhe prandaj refuzimet e vazhdueshme nga shqiptaret e Greqise nuk ju kan hiq bo pershtypje. Gjyq ne Shqiperi per 'tradheti kombetare' ju bohet vetem kosovareve, i vetmi futbollist qe ka pas mundesi me perfaqesu kombetare te huaj dhe ka zgjedh Shqiperine eshte Ergys Kace.
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Dakort jam deri diku po edhe atyre të Greqise u eshte bere gjyq po problemi eshte se ata e konsiderojne veten Greke keshtu qe eshte e kote tu besh gjyq atyre. Leri të ikin në të s'ëmës. Gjithsesi eshte fakt qe Shaiptaret nga Kosova jane shume me teper nacionaliste se Shqiptaret nga RSH. P.sh. Në France do thoja se 70% e tifozave tane iahin me origjine nga Kosova (kryesisht nga Zvicra dhe Gjermania). Kam takuar disa prej tyre dhe kane nje atdhedashuri qe thjesht nuk eksizton tek shumica e Shqiptareve nga Shqiperia. Edhe kur mblidhemi në NYC të shohim ndeshjet e Shqiperise ka shume Shqiptare nga Kosova.

Ky emertimi "tradhtar" eshte shume i pakuptimpte. Kosova eshte shtet me vete. Nuk mund të trajtohet si shtet jetim.


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Erik wrote:
vata10 wrote:
Albo_eagle wrote:Albanians play for Albania. Other people play for other countries. Simple. If the blue and yellow flag is yours then go play for it. It's not mine, just like many many people from Prishtinë, Prizren, Gjakovë and so on.
Well if you don't see Kosova as an Albanian state, you're a fvking ignorant! Now that's simple!!
Obviously Kosovars are Albanians and nobody can dispute their partisan towards Albania but can you explain in what way the actual country and government of Kosova can be considered in any way shape or form an 'Albanian state'. I don't see it and I think if you were to ask them I don't think they'd see it that way either.

It's easy to see the direction Kosova is moving in, further and further away from Albania and with recent developments it seems they are holding hands with the Serbs more and more. It's a sad state of affairs.
Kosovars(excl. minorities) are native inhabitants in the that region and albanians by ethnicity. And because it's now a country and ruled by Albanian it is automatically an Albanian country(common sense here)!

The only non-albanian things in Kosova are the flag, anthem and the Serbian enclaves. The majority in Kosova dislikes the shit of each and everyone of those. And the only direction Kosova is moving in, is trying to become sovreign and get rid of international administration/control. Even the incompetent government is as Albanian as it gets!

Kosova and Albania have never been closer since the fasist and nazi wars.

According to you, one is an Albanian only if his doings benefit directly Shqiperia londineze, now that's as selfish as it gets from your part! And calling Kosovar Albanians traitors when they decide to represent Kosova instead of Albania, now that's what moves us away from eachother!!

Imo playing for Kosova should be seen in the same light as playing for Albania, excluding here the Albos that have enjoyed living in Greece!!!
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vata10 wrote:
Albo_eagle wrote:Albanians play for Albania. Other people play for other countries. Simple. If the blue and yellow flag is yours then go play for it. It's not mine, just like many many people from Prishtinë, Prizren, Gjakovë and so on.
Well if you don't see Kosova as an Albanian state, you're a fvking ignorant! Now that's simple!!
Of course Kosova is an Albanian state, it's part of Albania. That's the whole point. It's fine that it has it's own national team. But true Albanian patriots play for the red and black double headed eagle of Gjergj Kastrioti. People who feel more proud to be Kosovar than Albanian can play for the ugly blue and yellow UN sanctioned shit stain flag. It might be an ugly truth but a truth none the less
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Albanian Damien wrote:
vata10 wrote:
Albo_eagle wrote:Albanians play for Albania. Other people play for other countries. Simple. If the blue and yellow flag is yours then go play for it. It's not mine, just like many many people from Prishtinë, Prizren, Gjakovë and so on.
Well if you don't see Kosova as an Albanian state, you're a fvking ignorant! Now that's simple!!
Of course Kosova is an Albanian state, it's part of Albania. That's the whole point. It's fine that it has it's own national team. But true Albanian patriots play for the red and black double headed eagle of Gjergj Kastrioti. People who feel more proud to be Kosovar than Albanian can play for the ugly blue and yellow UN sanctioned shit stain flag. It might be an ugly truth but a truth none the less
Pretty ignorant statement I must say.

But hey, I've learned a lot the last few days. I've learned that certain people are bitter at their own failures and have to take their frustration on the hopeless people that are trying to make something for themselves.
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Albanian Damien wrote:
vata10 wrote:
Well if you don't see Kosova as an Albanian state, you're a fvking ignorant! Now that's simple!!
Of course Kosova is an Albanian state, it's part of Albania. That's the whole point. It's fine that it has it's own national team. But true Albanian patriots play for the red and black double headed eagle of Gjergj Kastrioti. People who feel more proud to be Kosovar than Albanian can play for the ugly blue and yellow UN sanctioned shit stain flag. It might be an ugly truth but a truth none the less
Pretty ignorant statement I must say.

But hey, I've learned a lot the last few days. I've learned that certain people are bitter at their own failures and have to take their frustration on the hopeless people that are trying to make something for themselves.
Not really. Kosova will still be my 2nd favorite team. I hope they qualify, I'll be rooting for them in their group. Now here is where we'll get divided. If Kosova and Albanian both qualify ( :lutem: ) and they get placed in the same group, who would you root for(assuming you're from Kosova)? Who would most Kosovars root for? Now as for the reason as to why us mainland Albanians are acting a little butthurt. We're used to having our talent taken from us by the West, and Greece and Italy. But now all of sudden it feels like our own little brother is trying to rip away our athletes.

When you put on the shirt of a national team you represent that flag wether you like it or not. Xherdan Shaqiri represents the red and white cross, Januzaj the blue and yellow stars, and Cana represents the red and black eagle. That's a truth. You can't play for Kosova and at the same time be a representative of the Albanian national team. It doesn't work like that..
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Albanian Damien wrote:
vata10 wrote:
Albo_eagle wrote:Albanians play for Albania. Other people play for other countries. Simple. If the blue and yellow flag is yours then go play for it. It's not mine, just like many many people from Prishtinë, Prizren, Gjakovë and so on.
Well if you don't see Kosova as an Albanian state, you're a fvking ignorant! Now that's simple!!
Of course Kosova is an Albanian state, it's part of Albania. That's the whole point. It's fine that it has it's own national team. But true Albanian patriots play for the red and black double headed eagle of Gjergj Kastrioti. People who feel more proud to be Kosovar than Albanian can play for the ugly blue and yellow UN sanctioned shit stain flag. It might be an ugly truth but a truth none the less
I agree.

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Kuqezijeti wrote:Kosovos potential line up for Russia

Berisha
Hadergjonaj. Sadiku. Aziz. ?
G. Xhaka. T. Xhaka
Rashica. Januzaj. Shaqiri
Berisha
Subs. Veseli. Rrahamani. Ujkani. Hatemaj. Abdi. V. Berisha. B. Berisha. Celina. Behrami. Byteqi.
I won't be surprise if the likes of Ajeti. Mavraj. Lenjani and Abrashi switch as well, let's be honest they are going to prefer to play for the place they came from and feel that they more likely to qualify for Russia with Kosovo then with Albania. And being kosovars they are going to want it even more considering the host is Russia and want to take some revenge. I feel bad for Hysaj. Kace and Djimsiti as they are going to be stuck with armetours. Many of you will say T. Xhaka and Berisha amongst other players won't switch but i can see them doing it as Berisha is very close with Bunjaku and we were all surprised with Rashica switch the most patriot Albanian player ever judging by his insta profile what makes u think that the likes of Mavraj and Xhaka won't switch who are less patriotic.
Why would Berisha switch when they already have Ujkani? Ajeti isnt switching either when hes the starting CB now for us, and Mavraj said himself that he isnt switching. Lenjani and Abrashi arent going anywhere either as they're automatic starters for us. Like dude chill, half our team isnt going to go play for Kosove.
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^ Probably because Ujkani is absolute dog shit but yeah, there are no indications that any of them will be switching.

I find these Kosovo vs Albania debates on social media entertaining but they are not to be taken seriously. Both sides are talking absolute nonsense. What pisses me off is some highly respected journalists(especially from Albania) getting into these debates and talking absolute b.s. That blows my mind because they are talking out of their ass, like they started watching soccer 2 months ago. I don't think they can name 3 NT players.
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Albanian Damien wrote:
MadMan wrote:
Albanian Damien wrote:
Of course Kosova is an Albanian state, it's part of Albania. That's the whole point. It's fine that it has it's own national team. But true Albanian patriots play for the red and black double headed eagle of Gjergj Kastrioti. People who feel more proud to be Kosovar than Albanian can play for the ugly blue and yellow UN sanctioned shit stain flag. It might be an ugly truth but a truth none the less
Pretty ignorant statement I must say.

But hey, I've learned a lot the last few days. I've learned that certain people are bitter at their own failures and have to take their frustration on the hopeless people that are trying to make something for themselves.
Not really. Kosova will still be my 2nd favorite team. I hope they qualify, I'll be rooting for them in their group. Now here is where we'll get divided. If Kosova and Albanian both qualify ( :lutem: ) and they get placed in the same group, who would you root for(assuming you're from Kosova)? Who would most Kosovars root for? Now as for the reason as to why us mainland Albanians are acting a little butthurt. We're used to having our talent taken from us by the West, and Greece and Italy. But now all of sudden it feels like our own little brother is trying to rip away our athletes.

When you put on the shirt of a national team you represent that flag wether you like it or not. Xherdan Shaqiri represents the red and white cross, Januzaj the blue and yellow stars, and Cana represents the red and black eagle. That's a truth. You can't play for Kosova and at the same time be a representative of the Albanian national team. It doesn't work like that..
You're contradicting yourself a bit here. You cannot say I'd still root for Kosove and want them to qualify but at the same time call those people that support or play for Kosove 'unpatriotic'. Hell, it wouldn't even be unpatriotic for an albanian from the mainland to play for Kosove. Just like those people from mainland Albania that joined the UCK ranks.

As an Albanian from kosove I'd root for both teams just the same. Hell, if Cameria existed today and was in the position that Kosova is, if it meant for them to strengthen their separation from Greece I'd gladly/be happy to play for them rather than Kosove(if Kosova was already an established state).

People seem to be putting to much emphasis on what kit/flag/national anthem will be presented inside a stadium, acting oblivious to that fact these were things we had no control over to be honest . Just like when they separated kosove and other territories away from the mainland in 1912, just like when they decided to intervene in 1999, just like when they gave us the green light to declare independence in 2007, just like today they are telling us that a piece of kosovan territory belongs to montenegero and calling us fools for saying otherwise.

Saying all this, I'm not against being united under one flag, one name, one national anthem, however as long as you're not fit to fight your own battle, you cannot complain. People will bring up the Kosovan government/politicians as the main culprits to the 'division', however forgetting that these guys are nothing but puppets controlled by foreign powers. It takes two to tango, neither governments are doing or are capable of uniting, because again it all comes down to not being able to fight your own battles.

I actually think Kosova has never been in a better position than this in terms of getting closer with Albanian since 1912. However, if the cards are played right, then down the line I can easily see a one/united country with a stronger and better position in the balkans. However, judging from a lot people where they'd rather offend one another, purely because they are ignorant, I do not see how this helps the cause.
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