Re: Exodus 2.0 - Kombetarja

[Plako]

I like Blushi because he is thought provoking but Migjeni is dead on in his critique. Shkrimi eshte tendencioz sidomos be perseritjen e termit "Kosovar" dhe në perforcimin e idese se Kosovaret Jane ndryshe nga Shqiptaret tani. Blushi ngjan shume edhe LedZep-in mbeshtetesi kryesor i "Komebtares Kosovare" në kete forum. I know one thing they have in common

[Plako]

Lol, Ben Blushi should stick to writing fiction books. He's a decent storyteller!

Not really to be honest. I read "Te jetosh në Ishull" dhe mu duk medioker.


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[Rodon]

Fun fact, when I was very young I never heard the word "serb" from people around me, not in good not in bad, I simply never heard about it.
In the other hand, the term "kosovar" was very widespread and I distinctly remember it was always derogatory. Those "Kosovars, low katunars from the mountains" were very well and alive in the minds of Albanians.
Keep in mind, it didn't change even when serbs were massacrating and raping Albanians, the serbs simply didn't exist.

What impresses me about Croatians, serbs, macedonians, greeks, is that it doesn't exist this regionalist mentality among them. They are very close to eachother, united in goal, and never compromise when it is about national interest (look for example at republika srpska to serbia, Hercegovina Croats to Croatia etc.etc). That is because they have selfrespect (even if some of these states are poor like us), something unfortunately majority of Albanians entirely lack.

Just one of the thousands example I could make: http://www.reporter.al/mania-per-emra-t ... shqiptare/
Something as completely normal as naming your Albanian children with Albanian names is pathetically called "patriotic".
A simple and normal way to express Albanian identity is seen as stupid.

[Simboli i Diellit]

In the other hand, the term "kosovar" was very widespread and I distinctly remember it was always derogatory. Those "Kosovars, low katunars from the mountains" were very well and alive in the minds of Albanians.

Correction: "In the mind of the katundar albanians from south who can't see further of their own katun". That's a typical attitude of unsecurely wannabe better and superior albanians by offending others from other towns while themselves swim in slime. In northern Albania noone really judges sourtherns or Kosovars exept some cases based on religious basis (Migjeni's experience) .

[Pjetër]

We're not going to pretend that Albanians are the worst offenders of provincialism right? There are plenty of countries where people hate other people just for being from another region. It's the norm in like 95% of countries around the world.

[Pjetër]

And what's funny is that the countries I just saw listed where there supposedly isn't a provincial mentality are all shithole countries that no sane person would ever willingly live in.

[artan]

We're not going to pretend that Albanians are the worst offenders of provincialism right? There are plenty of countries where people hate other people just for being from another region. It's the norm in like 95% of countries around the world.

I wouldn't say hate. I think with Albanians it's more of a friendly banter kind of thing. It may be different with us than other European countries as we were a bit more "tribal" then other European countries. It was very rare and even difficult(costly, poor roads) to travel outside of your local town and villages so everyone just stayed local. We obviously know about the conditions of roads in Albania until the past decade where investments were made.

As for the other divide among Southern Albanians I think it stems with the fact there's no contact between them. Some Southern Albanians think ex-yugo Albanians are arabs while ex-yugo albanians think Southern Albanians are wannabe greeks/italians.

[Rodon]

In the other hand, the term "kosovar" was very widespread and I distinctly remember it was always derogatory. Those "Kosovars, low katunars from the mountains" were very well and alive in the minds of Albanians.

Correction: "In the mind of the katundar albanians from south who can't see further of their own katun". That's a typical attitude of unsecurely wannabe better and superior albanians by offending others from other towns while themselves swim in slime. In northern Albania noone really judges sourtherns or Kosovars exept some cases based on religious basis (Migjeni's experience) .

Even though the hard stereotypes have passed, things have not changed so much as we wished, and certainely things are not so smooth as Artan make it. There are still Albanians that think of Kosovo Albanians as an entirely different nation (like ledzep) with just a similar language and nothing more (again, notice the extreme difference compared to Croats, serbs, greeks).

I am just glad though that every time I encountered this kind of trash mentality, it was always somebody with at least 40+ years southerner with Hoxha nostalgia.
Thanks God among youngers it is very rare nowadays.

[Dallku]

Kosovo is a different nation and its people have a much different mentality than Albos. You can see this everywhere. Of course that's normal because they lived under Slavic occupation for a long time and their upbringing is much foreign to us. That's why they are so different.

I didn't want to say it but the differences between Kosovo/Albania are much bigger than Serbia/Croatia. Only thing is that we don't hate each other like those people do but they are ridiculously similar in culture, sports, mentality, traditions, language. "We" are not..

Albanians/Kosovars won't move forward until we accept reality. Kosovars are much better at it and they are starting to accept and embrace their new nation but now it's time for Albos to do the same and stop being hypocrites, most of us didn't know Kosovo existed until 99 and some others until the drone incident in Belgrade.

[Rodon]

^ Q.E.D., as I said predictable regionalist imbecility.

Everything written in your post is factually incorrect, but anywaya I won't even bother to correct it. As I said, your breed is dying out rapidly, there is no need for us to accelerate the natural process of generational cleansing.

I though reiterate the call on Simboli to ban the filthness from this forum.