With memories of the golden years (80's) of the albanian football still fresh on her mind, Albania is now attempting to recreate its strong football legacy. As young players start making their names abroad, the future is looking bright for Albanian football!
Albanian Damien wrote:The Greeks took just as many turkish words as we did. So how come those motherfuckers aren't muslim like us? Because maybe they realized that although it's too late to change the language we can still have control of our own beliefs.
Youre wrong here.
Most Albanians converted not to pay taxes, not to deal with the fucking Turks on a daily basis, basically like "here, ill convert to your stupid religion just stay out of my life"
Greeks didnt do shit, religion was so important to them that they paid taxes to the Turks by giving them their daughters . They changed their blood line to keep their religion, hence their shade of color today. A modern greek is just a christian turk, not much different than a syrian orthodox for example, other than language.
But are we really that much different? Most of us have some Turkish blood(even if it's just a drop) as sad as it is. My own great grandmother was a Turk. It's inevitable after 500 years. We can't control it no more than light skin black people in America can control the fact they have the blood of slave masters in them. However, the one thing we can control is our ideologies. That's the only point I meant to make about the declining Muslim population. I really didn't think it would spark such a large debate
Speak for yourself dude. My dark blonde hair and green eyes beg to differ that i have any "turkish" blood in me. If anything, youve got millions of turks with albanian roots.
Ain't no one in my village from either side a Turk. I tell you that much. THe ones who have any in them assimilated and became "Turk". The one who didn't outlasted and still say they're Albanian aka us
Plako wrote:
And don't worry about sparking a debate, this is an old and recurring topic here usually initiated by fundamentalist Catholics like Dragoi and Pjetër and our in-house fundamentalist atheist DigBick
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I'm agnostic, you racist. Anyhow, seriously guys, take this discussion to Free Your Mendje. There you can discuss as much as you want. It's been like 3 pages now all you read is Turkish, Mewslims, eyes-is, Serbia. (I
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I mean is that not the reason why so many Albanians are Muslim? An Albanian is Muslim because his parents were Muslim. His parent's were Muslims because their parents were Muslim and so on and so forth. This how Turkey continues to subconsciously control us. So what I mean to say is that as the Muslim population drops that means that more and more Albanians are thinking coherently for themselves. They are breaking from the chain of tradition which is very good thing. But at the same time I'm not advocating for Christianity to take over. I've said it once but I'll say it again. 33% Muslim, 33% Christian and 33% non-religious would be my dream so that Albanian can show the whole world how a civilized society is supposed to treat religion. I do not want ANY religion to dominate our country. None of them should be above 50%. Because if we start being 60% Christian we might end up acting like those fucking Greek and Serb faggot. I assure you I don't want that.
What I want is for Albanian to be free to choose ANY religion they want because of their own. But when > 50% is automatically going to pick Muslim then it feels like were just puppets for Turkey. If you think that's wrong then why the f*** are there Albanians going to fight for ISIS in Syria? Those poor Albanian Muslims have brainwashed by Turkey. Syrians are not our brother. Turks are not our brothers. Greeks are not our brothers. Serbs are not our brothers. Any religion that sides with any of those is the wrong religion. For me at least.
I can understand the whole Turkish argument and the oppressors religion and what not. But advocating that Christianity is the true religion is a bit stupid to me. So you want Albanians to mass convert to Orthodox? For the argument you make against Turks/Islam oppressing Albanians you can say that Orthodox has oppressed Albanians. Ask Albanians to convert to Orthodox after the Serbs tried genociding them and have oppressed us for centuries? Ask Southern Albanians to convert the orthodox after Greece expelled and ethnic cleansed them from Cameria?.... It's the same argument really but a different spectrum.
As for the ISIS I think that's more due to Saudi/Wahabists funding. The Saudi's with their financial supporting of terrorist organizations are the main culprits of global Jihad and the radicalization of Muslims. But no one goes after the Saudi's as they are in a marriage with the United States and everyone turns a blind eye. Turkey has a very conservative regime under Endogan and Turkey are definitely are turning a blind eye to the radical fighters entering Turkey to later fight in Syria for their own political gain. To me the Saudis are the big problem..
But I agree with you Turks, Serbs, Greeks, etc, aren't our brothers.
Yea. Take this talk to the Free your mind thread. If you're dying to reply to somebody, just quote a post, then copy and paste that quote in the Free Your Mind thread, and reply to it there, not here.
In fact i would like to have the Bulgaria friendly only. Don't like the feeling to play against Kosova , we don't need it now. They better play against another state than versus us, it serves more to the cause and would be a real match unlike the theatric friendly against us that would end 2:2 just for the fun of viewers.
Funky Ben wrote:
But are we really that much different? Most of us have some Turkish blood(even if it's just a drop) as sad as it is. My own great grandmother was a Turk. It's inevitable after 500 years. We can't control it no more than light skin black people in America can control the fact they have the blood of slave masters in them. However, the one thing we can control is our ideologies. That's the only point I meant to make about the declining Muslim population. I really didn't think it would spark such a large debate
Speak for yourself dude. My dark blonde hair and green eyes beg to differ that i have any "turkish" blood in me. If anything, youve got millions of turks with albanian roots.
I hate to break it to you but I have the same exact features you listed brother. The blonde hair and green eyes unfortunately didn't exempt me from having traces of Turkish blood (albeit 1/16 at most)
with all that said. There are definitely Turks with Albanian blood. Bitches love us That's the last thing I'll say about it because I think it's time we get back to what we're really here for and that's to support our boys in Kuq e Zi
Speaking of football , looks like Trapattoni will be the Armenia's next coach and looks like by next october when we meet Serbia , Radomir Antic will become their manager. While Morten Olsen and Fernando Santos most likely will be still in their positions when we play Denmark and Portugal. Armenia's new Italian coatch is a good news to us while i'm worried about Antic, he is a good manager and motivates their players. We need at least 6 points to cement our third place and probably 2-3 more to become 2-nd . So without the CAS ruling (there is a chance they give back to Serbia the points also ) we need 2 away wins (Denmak-Armenia) and 2 home draws (Portugal -Serbia).
Dragoi wrote:Speaking of football , looks like Trapattoni will be the Armenia's next coach and looks like by next october when we meet Serbia , Radomir Antic will become their manager. While Morten Olsen and Fernando Santos most likely will be still in their positions when we play Denmark and Portugal. Armenia's new Italian coatch is a good news to us while i'm worried about Antic, he is a good manager and motivates their players. We need at least 6 points to cement our third place and probably 2-3 more to become 2-nd . So without the CAS ruling (there is a chance they give back to Serbia the points also ) we need 2 away wins (Denmak-Armenia) and 2 home draws (Portugal -Serbia).
Really, Trap at Armenia? Wow, how the mighty have fallen...
That's the last thing I'll say about it because I think it's time we get back to what we're really here for and that's to support our boys in Kuq e Zi