England vs Albania - World Cup USA 2026 Qualifiers - 21/03/2025

[CanaYouDoIt]

I can talk all day about this, it’s 2025 and Albanians are still glorifying living in the west, it’s sad . I talked to this albanian who moved here with her husband very recently by overstaying their visa , some life you’ll have here getting overworked just to make it by. Instead of staying in albania and doing the exact same thing their except the lifestyle is much better. It’s a national sickness, obsession to leave thinking it’s better when it’s not.

previous generations had every excuse to leave , nowadays ? I don’t feel sorry at all, these young adults and kids today are causing their own problems, we will probably be in the EU in a few years , stay, make the country worthwhile instead of fleeing like cowards. Same problems all through our society , it’s a sickness.

And before anyone says anything I’m not some fake patriotic diaspora , I went backed and lived there working for a whole year, Albanians don’t know how good they have it honestly.

The wage in Albania is €350 a month which equates to less than €15 a day since many are working 6-7 days a week..

Price of gas is €2 a liter. Therefore, you are working all day for about 7 litres of gas. Where I am currently, the wage is $250 a day and the price of gas is lower at $1.50 a litre. Do the math..

A regular working man can hardly take his partner out for a date after work because his whole daily wage would go just to the few litres of gas he will waste, let alone the food they will eat, or the present he will buy for his partner. Prices there were thru the roof, comparable to western countries where wages are 4/5 times higher. A vast majority of young men have to live at home with their parents because they cannot afford their own place, cannot afford to start their own life.

The food there was terrible. In the west, when food goes bad, it is thrown out and replaced by fresher food. In Albania, it is still kept on the shelf to sell to the poor customers because throwing it out would be “a waste.”

Don’t get me started on the mentality. There was a car honking the horn at lady legally crossing at pedestrian crosswalk so she would move faster. Traffic was next level, no parking, cars parked illegally, driving was a total headache.

Then let’s get to physical education which is far behind western countries. Notice how Albanian athletes are so physically inferior compared to Western countries like England. Just the physical education you will receive in a Western country is on another level and if you are hard working, this will give you a chance to fulfill your dreams as an athlete.

Western countries will also pay you for having kids. 2-3 kids and your rent and most bills are already paid leaving your wage to be spent vacationing. Social benefits in most Western countries are super good. They help you out with basically anything you may need. Good luck with that in Albania..

In theory, I agree with your sentiment to stay home and improve your country but Albania is just so far beyond helping that the best thing possible is to just relocate elsewhere.

I'll come back to this after the game or when I have more time but you live in the US right? Vastly different to England for example. You make good points but I'll respond to that later.

[RedFootballs]

The Hoxha-Manaj-Broja frontline should be used in every game, clearly, it is our best setup, and as I wrote here many times to the derision of everyone :

Broja is a WINGER. Not a striker.

He is infinitely more effective when he can play facing the goal and has the freedom to run into space on the touchline. He is not a player who plays with his back to goal and stays around the box.

As a winger he creates a big amount of danger and can disorganise the defenders. He can end up giving many assists. As Dallku said, he is like a better version of Roshi.

[artan]

Broja is not a winger. It works against Andora because they're one of the worst teams in the world. You can't take performances against them seriously.

[CanaYouDoIt]

I’ve just seen Group H in the world cup qualifiers, why can’t that be us man. Why do we never get an easy group

[Aurora Bulkualis]

The wage in Albania is €350 a month which equates to less than €15 a day

Where are you getting this from? The average wage in Albania is 800-900 euros on paper. In reality it's even higher because a lot of jobs like construction and tourism pay under the table to money launder and avoid taxes. I know plenty of people making 2-4k/month in Tirana.

A decent apartment in a good zone will cost you 200k euros in Tirana. That wouldn't happen if people made 300 euros a month or whatever.

But I agree with the fetish for leaving Albania. I truly don't get it. If you're destitute alright, but people have perfectly good jobs, lives, and still want to leave. I really don't get it.

Western countries will also pay you for having kids. 2-3 kids and your rent and most bills are already paid leaving your wage to be spent vacationing. Social benefits in most Western countries are super good. They help you out with basically anything you may need. Good luck with that in Albania..

Not sure where you live, but if you go the States or Canada, people will laugh at you for such statements.

[Princ]

Where are you getting this from? The average wage in Albania is 800-900 euros on paper. In reality it's even higher because a lot of jobs like construction and tourism pay under the table to money launder and avoid taxes. I know plenty of people making 2-4k/month in Tirana.

A decent apartment in a good zone will cost you 200k euros in Tirana. That wouldn't happen if people made 300 euros a month or whatever.

Not sure where you live, but if you go the States or Canada, people will laugh at you for such statements.

I am getting it from the people I know currently working in Albania..

Check Numbeo.. average salary in big cities Vlore, Korce, Fier is €400 meaning there will be many people making less than that. In smaller towns, the wage is even lower..

Maybe the ultra elite are making the figures that you are proposing! If everyone was making what you say, then why would 90% of young men be living with parents?

I am talking about what the common man makes, not the man with 5 university degrees or whose family owns huge business. The figure I posted in comparison for the West ($250 a day) would be what a grocery store worker makes over here, not an engineer or scientist who obviously makes way more.

Western countries pay you for having kids! 2-3 kids and the rent is paid, 4-5 kids and you live like a King! You take your wage every 2 months to Las Vegas, best place in the world!

Where is the Las Vegas in Albania?

[CanaYouDoIt]

Where are you getting this from? The average wage in Albania is 800-900 euros on paper. In reality it's even higher because a lot of jobs like construction and tourism pay under the table to money launder and avoid taxes. I know plenty of people making 2-4k/month in Tirana.

A decent apartment in a good zone will cost you 200k euros in Tirana. That wouldn't happen if people made 300 euros a month or whatever.

Not sure where you live, but if you go the States or Canada, people will laugh at you for such statements.

I am getting it from the people I know currently working in Albania..

Check Numbeo.. average salary in big cities Vlore, Korce, Fier is €400 meaning there will be many people making less than that. In smaller towns, the wage is even lower..

Maybe the ultra elite are making the figures that you are proposing! If everyone was making what you say, then why would 90% of young men be living with parents?

I am talking about what the common man makes, not the man with 5 university degrees or whose family owns huge business. The figure I posted in comparison for the West ($250 a day) would be what a grocery store worker makes over here, not an engineer or scientist who obviously makes way more.

Western countries pay you for having kids! 2-3 kids and the rent is paid, 4-5 kids and you live like a King! You take your wage every 2 months to Las Vegas, best place in the world!

Where is the Las Vegas in Albania?

I don’t know what western country you live in a king in for having 4/5 kids while getting paid but definitely not on planet earth . People in the diaspora work like dogs for not that great of a life.

[CanaYouDoIt]

The wage in Albania is €350 a month which equates to less than €15 a day

Where are you getting this from? The average wage in Albania is 800-900 euros on paper. In reality it's even higher because a lot of jobs like construction and tourism pay under the table to money launder and avoid taxes. I know plenty of people making 2-4k/month in Tirana.

A decent apartment in a good zone will cost you 200k euros in Tirana. That wouldn't happen if people made 300 euros a month or whatever.

But I agree with the fetish for leaving Albania. I truly don't get it. If you're destitute alright, but people have perfectly good jobs, lives, and still want to leave. I really don't get it.

Western countries will also pay you for having kids. 2-3 kids and your rent and most bills are already paid leaving your wage to be spent vacationing. Social benefits in most Western countries are super good. They help you out with basically anything you may need. Good luck with that in Albania..

Not sure where you live, but if you go the States or Canada, people will laugh at you for such statements.

Yup that’s the essence of it for me, the example I gave , both her and her husband have university degrees but you decide to move to england on a boat to be a builder ? I don’t know but to me that’s the behaviour of madmen.

Albanian self hatred knows no bounds, starts in the media and has infected every part of albanian society. We have to change that first or we have no chance.

It’s a sickness this desperation to move to western countries , it’s why at time as hard as it is I actually support the harsher narrative on these albanians coming to the UK on boats . Shaming us by coming here and saying they all got trafficked or their parents will kill them for being gay, it’s too much.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

The boat thing is another debate. I'm talking more about legal immigration of skilled, young people to places like Germany or USA. 90% of those people that went on boats to England were coke/weed dealers from rural areas and 0 education (Crime rates show this too. They're almost all criminals). Everyone in Albania makes fun of them. (Cunat e Londres)

[Princ]

I don’t know what western country you live in a king in for having 4/5 kids while getting paid but definitely not on planet earth . People in the diaspora work like dogs for not that great of a life.

News flash..

People have to work everywhere.

The only difference is that in West you actually get compensated for your work so on your time off, you can go live it up!

I went to Albania for vacation, but I left realizing my life in the west was the vacation all along!!