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Lol Plako. Yes the west is "de-sensitized" to killings in the Middle East. That's why every fucking day for the last 15 years, the news has been filled with SJWs complaining about drones killing innocent people, about hospitals being shot (and rightfully so).
Aren't we just as de-sensitized to mass shootings in US by the mentally ill? Maybe, it has nothing to do with West vs. East but internalization of violence. The circumstances are just a tad different here.
Simboli stop posting those videos, if you don't want to end up on some NSA database
Aren't we just as de-sensitized to mass shootings in US by the mentally ill? Maybe, it has nothing to do with West vs. East but internalization of violence. The circumstances are just a tad different here.
Simboli stop posting those videos, if you don't want to end up on some NSA database

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Yeah you have a good point that the frequency of events does de-sensitize one from an event no matter how horrific.Aurora Bulkualis wrote:Lol Plako. Yes the west is "de-sensitized" to killings in the Middle East. That's why every fucking day for the last 15 years, the news has been filled with SJWs complaining about drones killing innocent people, about hospitals being shot (and rightfully so).
Aren't we just as de-sensitized to mass shootings in US by the mentally ill? Maybe, it has nothing to do with West vs. East but internalization of violence. The circumstances are just a tad different here.
Simboli stop posting those videos, if you don't want to end up on some NSA database
But make no mistake, this is absolutely a West vs East issue. When FB starts having filters for the Palestinian children dying every month, I'll start believing this is not a West vs. East issue.
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I respect everyones opinion but I just do not understand the process of thought that we have to give the same reactions and feel the same for people killed in Lebanon, Iraqi, Syria and I don't know where else to the people being killed in France.
Of course the western world, including us (we are westerns right?) will feel more shocked if this happened in a country close to us. The world gives more solidarity to France rather then Lebanon terrorist attack because the world can relate more to the pain that France is going through. The western world is a civilized place where attacks like the France one are unthinkable. Middle East is a shit hole where attacks like this are an every day occurrence. The cause of all these evil is in Middle East! I feel bad for the common people over there but if they want to they can stop it. However they would rather have their own people cut their heads off like barbarians than have the western world help them.
My father was born in Paris and lived there with my grand parents for 5 years in the 1950s and for a present I am taking him with me to France next year for the European Cup so I fucking hate these middle eastern earth scum for doing this to such a beautiful city.
Of course the western world, including us (we are westerns right?) will feel more shocked if this happened in a country close to us. The world gives more solidarity to France rather then Lebanon terrorist attack because the world can relate more to the pain that France is going through. The western world is a civilized place where attacks like the France one are unthinkable. Middle East is a shit hole where attacks like this are an every day occurrence. The cause of all these evil is in Middle East! I feel bad for the common people over there but if they want to they can stop it. However they would rather have their own people cut their heads off like barbarians than have the western world help them.
My father was born in Paris and lived there with my grand parents for 5 years in the 1950s and for a present I am taking him with me to France next year for the European Cup so I fucking hate these middle eastern earth scum for doing this to such a beautiful city.
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That's really interesting. Did your dad move back to Albania or to the US? How did they leave Albania at the time?IndritFieri wrote:I respect everyones opinion but I just do not understand the process of thought that we have to give the same reactions and feel the same for people killed in Lebanon, Iraqi, Syria and I don't know where else to the people being killed in France.
Of course the western world, including us (we are westerns right?) will feel more shocked if this happened in a country close to us. The world gives more solidarity to France rather then Lebanon terrorist attack because the world can relate more to the pain that France is going through. The western world is a civilized place where attacks like the France one are unthinkable. Middle East is a shit hole where attacks like this are an every day occurrence. The cause of all these evil is in Middle East! I feel bad for the common people over there but if they want to they can stop it. However they would rather have their own people cut their heads off like barbarians than have the western world help them.
My father was born in Paris and lived there with my grand parents for 5 years in the 1950s and for a present I am taking him with me to France next year for the European Cup so I fucking hate these middle eastern earth scum for doing this to such a beautiful city.
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What's with this NSA thing? Not afraid of them, i don't live in US and if they have scheduled me then they must be sure by now that i'm anti ISISAurora Bulkualis wrote:Simboli stop posting those videos, if you don't want to end up on some NSA database

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We are missing the elephant in the room which is Islam. Journalists and world leaders alike fail to address the main issue here. Arab people are great guys, you can't categorize by race and say all Arabs are like this. There is something all these terrorist groups have in common though.
I feel truly sorry for all decent people and the hardship they are going through from Syria all the way to Lebanon, it's very very sad that so many people have to go through what happened in France every single day of their lives and I actually cry inside whenever I hear about the tragedies that occur over there in the Middle East daily. My heart goes out to all the Syrian people and the struggles they endure along with every other person who is going through similar things.
The worst thing about this is it will never end, get rid of ISIS, another fundamentalist organisation will arrive, get rid of them, another takes it's place. We have to tackle the root cause but nobody wants to speak about it. I'm not afraid to say it either,you guys can bash me all you want. There are inherent things inside of Islam that makes a minority of it's followers do the things they do. Muslims are amazing people so don't get it confused and think I'm talking about muslim people here.
I truly hope we one day find peace, boy does the world deserve it.
I feel truly sorry for all decent people and the hardship they are going through from Syria all the way to Lebanon, it's very very sad that so many people have to go through what happened in France every single day of their lives and I actually cry inside whenever I hear about the tragedies that occur over there in the Middle East daily. My heart goes out to all the Syrian people and the struggles they endure along with every other person who is going through similar things.
The worst thing about this is it will never end, get rid of ISIS, another fundamentalist organisation will arrive, get rid of them, another takes it's place. We have to tackle the root cause but nobody wants to speak about it. I'm not afraid to say it either,you guys can bash me all you want. There are inherent things inside of Islam that makes a minority of it's followers do the things they do. Muslims are amazing people so don't get it confused and think I'm talking about muslim people here.
I truly hope we one day find peace, boy does the world deserve it.
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Islam isn't inherently more dangerous than any other religion it's just the modern interpretation has been corrupted. When I say it's corrupted it's been heavily influenced by Saudi Arabi which promotes Wahabism and Salafism, two very outdated and radical forms of the religion. In the past century Saudi Arabia has seen a tremendous amount of wealth due to oil which lead to them being a leader. They openly finance and promote their view on Islam(Radicalism) all around the world because of the endless money resulting in populations becoming more radical in time. Kinda interesting that Iran(a very religious country) really doesn't have the same radicalism because they are enemies with Saudi Arabia and thus their influence(Saudi Arabia) doesn't reach Iran.Erik wrote:We are missing the elephant in the room which is Islam. Journalists and world leaders alike fail to address the main issue here. Arab people are great guys, you can't categorize by race and say all Arabs are like this. There is something all these terrorist groups have in common though.
I feel truly sorry for all decent people and the hardship they are going through from Syria all the way to Lebanon, it's very very sad that so many people have to go through what happened in France every single day of their lives and I actually cry inside whenever I hear about the tragedies that occur over there in the Middle East daily. My heart goes out to all the Syrian people and the struggles they endure along with every other person who is going through similar things.
The worst thing about this is it will never end, get rid of ISIS, another fundamentalist organisation will arrive, get rid of them, another takes it's place. We have to tackle the root cause but nobody wants to speak about it. I'm not afraid to say it either,you guys can bash me all you want. There are inherent things inside of Islam that makes a minority of it's followers do the things they do. Muslims are amazing people so don't get it confused and think I'm talking about muslim people here.
I truly hope we one day find peace, boy does the world deserve it.
The problem is obviously Saudi Arabi but ofc we know the ties with the US..
That's why if I was the leader of Albania i'd install the most nationalistic people as imams and give them a beard to give the illusion they're religious.

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Bro, you and I both know ''Wahabism'' is a concoction by the west to give a name to all these kind of terrorist groups that are now rampant in the middle east and Africa. Salafism is, from my understanding means '' to follow the way of the salaf'' ie. the original people dating back to the time of Islam's creation. The Saudi funds terror myth is so widely believed even though IS have criticized SA numerous times and called for their ''annihilation'' and vice versa. Even if Saudi Arabia was funding terror (which I doubt as there is little evidence to suggest IS have any links with Saudi Arabia) it doesn't excuse the point that even the Saudis would be getting these ideas from somewhere, there is a reference point for every world ideology.
And how is a religion like Christianity or even a random one like Sikhism dangerous in this modern age?
Haha that last bit made me chuckle
And how is a religion like Christianity or even a random one like Sikhism dangerous in this modern age?
Haha that last bit made me chuckle

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You can talk about Arabs and Islam but I don't see very many Arabs or Muslims in France leaving a six figure cushy office job to go join ISIS. It's people who were already criminals and pretty much have no future who go and join. Kind of like how some people join the United States army or the French Foreign Legion because they fucked up in school and have no job prospects.
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