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[Plako]

Like Owner said, there aren't any influential nationalists among the RA political class. The only politician in the last 25 years who comes to mind and had nationalist tendencies was Abdi Baleta, Hoxha's ambassador tot the UN, who had strong ties to the Enverist/Communist groups among Kosovar emigres in Switzerland. He formed his own party, Rimëkëmbja Kombëtare, but I don't think he ever entered the parliament as such. He only served one or two terms as a PD member. I have to say that his brand of nationalism had Islamic overtones as well and he never had any following. He was more of a media analyst than a political figure in the latter years of his career. I haven't heard of him for over a decade now.

As for Sali Berisha, he is a modern day King Zog, he'd sell half the country to maintain his grip on power. Also, this whole Rama is "Greek" is beyond ridiculous but I can understand why some Albanians from former Yugoslavia who have never met an Albanian Orthodox Christian would feel that way.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

but I can understand why some Albanians from former Yugoslavia who have never met an Albanian Orthodox Christian would feel that way.

I can't understand it, and it's fucking stupidity. These are probably the same guys who pray 5 times a day in a mosque, and think Turkey saved Albanians, when up to this day they still won't allow Albanian schools in Turkey, and committed genocide in Manastir. Also, Rama is an agnostic and most of his family is Catholic, which make the "Greek" accusations even more retarded.

[Pjetër]

I don't understand it either. I understand that they may have never met an Orthodox Albanian but to be completely ignorant about them is bizarre.

And I'm p. sure Rama is an atheist/agnostic who was baptized Catholic from an Orthodox family. So it's not like he's some fanatic Orthodox Christian.

[Simboli i Diellit]

Can a striker lose something like this in the final match that decides which team gets promoted?

[Albanian Damien]

I tried to find a video to the missed goal above. I honestly don't believe that someone missed that until I see it with my own two eyes

[Plako]

Can a striker lose something like this in the final match that decides which team gets promoted?

Dzeko can

[artan]

but I can understand why some Albanians from former Yugoslavia who have never met an Albanian Orthodox Christian would feel that way.

I can't understand it, and it's fucking stupidity. These are probably the same guys who pray 5 times a day in a mosque, and think Turkey saved Albanians, when up to this day they still won't allow Albanian schools in Turkey, and committed genocide in Manastir. Also, Rama is an agnostic and most of his family is Catholic, which make the "Greek" accusations even more retarded.

Relax, when I said that I was referring to a few of my family members who are as agnostic/non-religious you can get. I'm not even sure most Albanians from the former Yugo viewed it as that but Berisha had more popularity because he had more connections to the Albanians in the former Yugo such as his speeches, visits, etc. He had support from the Albanian diaspora as well. Rama never had that exposure and like I said that has changed since Rama is now "networking" with his Kosovar/Macedonian counterparts.

BTW, stop bringing everything about Religion man.. It's getting out of hand. It would be like one of us calling all Albanians from the RA cultural marxists or something because of the Hoxha regime or calling them all Greeks.

[Plako]

BTW, stop bringing everything about Religion man.. It's getting out of hand. It would be like one of us calling all Albanians from the RA cultural marxists or something because of the Hoxha regime or calling them all Greeks.

Cultural Marxists is appropriate but Greeks is nonsensical, especially since the majority of the Southerners are Bektashi. Many Albanians from RA find the religious devoutness of some Albanians from Macedonia a bit weird as it is very rare in Albania proper. I have never been myself to Macedonian but a cousin of married this girl from Kumanova and at the wedding there was no alcohol served and women were separated from men, something that is unheard of in Albania.

[artan]

BTW, stop bringing everything about Religion man.. It's getting out of hand. It would be like one of us calling all Albanians from the RA cultural marxists or something because of the Hoxha regime or calling them all Greeks.

Cultural Marxists is appropriate but Greeks is nonsensical, especially since the majority of the Southerners are Bektashi. Many Albanians from RA find the religious devoutness of some Albanians from Macedonia a bit weird as it is very rare in Albania proper. I have never been myself to Macedonian but a cousin of married this girl from Kumanova and at the wedding there was no alcohol served and women were separated from men, something that is unheard of in Albania.

During the actual wedding? That's a bit odd.

Maybe it was one of those gatherings a day or two before the wedding when the men from both sides meet eachother and likewise with the women(I don't know what this is actually called) and when they exchange gifts, offer cigerates, drinks, snacks? That's common and I don't know if Albanians from the RA do that.

As for the no alcohol that's somewhat common tbh.

[Plako]

During the actual wedding? That's a bit odd.

Maybe it was one of those gatherings a day or two before the wedding when the men from both sides meet eachother and likewise with the women(I don't know what this is actually called) and when they exchange gifts, offer cigerates, drinks, snacks? That's common and I don't know if Albanians from the RA do that.

As for the no alcohol that's somewhat common tbh.

Well not sure if it was during the actual wedding and could very well be what you described. In Albania this used to be common practice 50-60 years ago but the Commies did away with these customs and other Orientalisms like the veil and the marriage of daughters at a young age.

You cannot believe the pressure the Communists would put on people to change their customs, especially the Islamic ones. There were propaganda movies about interfaith marriages (Moslem and Catholics in Shkoder) and any religious display was not only frowned upon but dealt with severely by he secret police. Anyone seen praying at home would be called to the police. It was an insane time but one that left a lasting imprint on the populace. So to most of us any outward display of religious behavior is frowned upon. Since many Albanians from former Yugoslavia are more religious than us you will get cultural Marxists like Owner who will freak out. I feel the same way about the resurgent Islam in Albania proper but I usually keep these thoughts to myself and try not to make a big deal about its


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