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[Plako]

Like if I converted to Buddhism tomorrow I hope that doesn't make me Japanese all of a sudden.

No that would make you Indian

So here's the video I was referring to. It's rather long but worth it imo. You can see the type of people representing a certain strain of Albanian Orthodoxy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLyisZpxzIY


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[Plako]

Also Owner, while you are chastising people for claiming that the orthodox are pro-Greek you on the other hand call them Turkophile and Arabophile. Talk about double standart.

As I mentioned that's a false equivalency. There are no hundreds of Albanian Orthodox waging fucking holy wars and joining militant groups that chop off heads in the name of Orthodoxy. There are no Albanian Orthodox people going to Syria to fight with Syrian Orthodox people. And I KNOW the majority of Muslims aren't Arabophiles, but a huge chunk are. That's a fact. That doesn't exist for Catholic or Orthodox communities. I know you'd like to make everything equal, but it's just not true.

On your Greek thing. I know there are nationalist Greeks who think southern Albania and whatnot is Greek. But you're also confusing Greek minorities in Himara, which of some I've met, and no they're not Albanians who are lying in the census, with Albanian Orthodox, which have nothing to do with each other, apart from the name of two religions that have little in common. That's like saying Bosniaks and Albanians are the same thing. And Januto whatever his name was was put there by Berisha, and people have protested against him. But it's not a democracy. What are they supposed to do kill him off?

Owner let's agree to disagree on this one. While you are obsessed with Albanians fighting holy wars in distant lands I am more worried about the Greek influence in Albania as it is more of a threat to us. When the Serbian Bishop Irinej comes to Tirana and claims that Kosovo is Serbian Holy Land but the Albanian Orthodox Church won't issue a statement saying Kosova is Albanian that is a huge deal in my book. Also they changed the name to Kisha Autoqefale Orthodhokse Shqiptare after the Janullatos takeover. No Albanian would pronounce it Orthodhokse, that's a Hellenized pronunciation. We would say Ortodokse.

Believe me I know the Orthodox in Albania very well who are ethnic Greek and who are not. There used to be a time when the Orthodox Albanians were at the forefront of the national awakening. That is no longer the case, there is barely any elements of nationalism left among the Orthodox.

[Genti]

Isn't Albania still in the top 10 most atheist/non religious nations list?

[Albanian Damien]

Isn't Albania still in the top 10 most atheist/non religious nations list?

Yeah when it comes to religion, none has turned out to be the best option for us

Honestly neither Islam nor Christian Orthodox have a place in Albania if we want to advance as a society.Literally look at the most fucked up countries in Europe, almost all Orthodox. And I don't even have to talk about how big of a shit hole the middle east is..

Now you might say that the shittiness of a country and it's religious attitude are pure coincidence. However, religious attitude drive the mindset of people and when you have that many coincidences it's no longer called such. Rather it becomes a correlation..

Besides, Catholic Albanians are the only true Albanians anyway

[Aurora Bulkualis]

Owner let's agree to disagree on this one. While you are obsessed with Albanians fighting holy wars in distant lands I am more worried about the Greek influence in Albania as it is more of a threat to us.

Sorry to say my friend but you are detached from reality. You have people chopping off heads, bombing others, trying to poison the main water supply line in Prishtina and you're talking about some bishop who can't even get their dicks up. If you really knew any Orthodox Albanians, you'd know they're like 95% irreligious, whereas Muslims and Catholics are barely over 50% irreligious. I'm trying to compare your image of a neo-Hellenic revival with the dozens of Orthodox I know who give 0 fucks about organized religion. If you've been paying attention to the news, Greece is going bankrupt as a country and risks of turning into a 3rd world country. On the other hand, Rama is bringing 2,000 jihadists refugees from Iran who were too wild for those regimes and building a Saudi-funded 30 million euro mosque in the middle of Tirana. Nothing to look for here.

For a guy that complains about cultural marxism and being PC, you sure don't have the balls to point that one religion is much more of a problem than all the others just because your parents belong to that religion. I have family from all religions, and don't hesitate for a second to point reality no matter what.

[Plako]

Sorry to say my friend but you are detached from reality. You have people chopping off heads, bombing others, trying to poison the main water supply line in Prishtina and you're talking about some bishop who can't even get their dicks up. If you really knew any Orthodox Albanians, you'd know they're like 95% irreligious, whereas Muslims and Catholics are barely over 50% irreligious. I'm trying to compare your image of a neo-Hellenic revival with the dozens of Orthodox I know who give 0 fucks about organized religion. If you've been paying attention to the news, Greece is going bankrupt as a country and risks of turning into a 3rd world country. On the other hand, Rama is bringing 2,000 jihadists refugees from Iran who were too wild for those regimes and building a Saudi-funded 30 million euro mosque in the middle of Tirana. Nothing to look for here.

For a guy that complains about cultural marxism and being PC, you sure don't have the balls to point that one religion is much more of a problem than all the others just because your parents belong to that religion. I have family from all religions, and don't hesitate for a second to point reality no matter what.

Dude you're sounding like these Fox News Jesus freaks here in America that one commonly finds at Trump rallies. Whatever "reality" you're pointing out is your own "reality" dude, stop pretending to be some sort of maverick.


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[Simboli i Diellit]

I tried to find a video to the missed goal above. I honestly don't believe that someone missed that until I see it with my own two eyes

https://youtu.be/e3-A4iaIpao
Minuta 6:24

Brother we all have our bad days at work every now and then.

Well, except

Matches are fixed by club owners (or players get corrupted in that case) in kategoria e pare since you can bet online for those matches.

[Simboli i Diellit]

Isn't Albania still in the top 10 most atheist/non religious nations list?

Probably it was , and it still is but usually what happens when you deny to people something they tend to go countercurrent afterwards...

[Simboli i Diellit]

The religious discussions usually tend to be biased. There is a lot to point out in all three main religions in Albania . You have the orthodox church building a 500k € church in Lezhe (20 orthodox declared) while they don't have money for the church of Himare or viceversa the Catholic church building churches in southernmost Albania where you can count their followers with your hand fingers. The four institutions that run the main religions in our country are getting back most of the seized properies by the communist regime . Some are selling the seaside terrains like the Orthodox church to build the 5 million cathedral&religious university in Tirana while others keep them and barely make living out of it (bektashi).

Janullatos will not last forever , there will be others following his policies . The orthodox church in Eastern Europe is a country based religion unlike roman catholicism , thus the issue for having the orthodox church run by Greeks while having the catholic leaded by italians once in a while doesn't matter .

Here is an interesting article about the two churches antagonism in Albanian territories during middleages:

http://floripress.blogspot.it/2015/12/p ... t.html?m=1

[Albanian Damien]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/22/th ... ommission/

This is why I refuse to ever be friendly to Serbia. I understand Rama was under pressure and had to cave to the demands of EU. But now that he's done his part and showed how much more civilized we are as a people I think it's time we go towards ostracization / sabotage of the Serbian nation.

The sooner it ceases to exist the better.